... I mean not Clemens Prokop alone, but he was the most prominent face of the campaign.
The Germans would be really stupid if they knew all those smart doping practices but forgot about them and did not produce a superlative runner in almost 20 years but now with far stricter controls than ever before we suddenly get Lückenkemper and Klosterhalfen... why now?
Like I said, I wouldn't accuse individual runners I know nothing about, so I'm not saying anything about KK. I'm sure doping practices are always advancing, so it's not a matter of remembering the old doping practices. But at least you know who was advancing the state of doping art in the 70s and 80s.
I'm responding to the poster that thinks that someone must be clean and setting "real clean records", presumably because they're from Germany rather than from places like Kenya, Ethiopia, and Russia. Germany shouldn't be presumed to be cleaner. Maybe what cheating is there is in pockets, not a blanket all sports, national thing like before, but it's not like all those dopers, doping coaches, etc. have died and not passed on. I remember being a fan of runners like Grit Beuer... hey, she was still young in 1990 - but then found out later that they were doping.
That someone like me has heard of personal accounts whispered with sadness about doping in Germany obviously affects my view. I realize that by knowing the right/wrong people, I might hear whispers of doping by Americans, and other athletes of other nations. So maybe the conclusion should be that doping can be everywhere. It's in human nature to cheat.
You are a reckless popohole ohne anstand und ehre.
Here is the current women's 3000 list:
1 8:31.23 Genzebe DIBABA 08 FEB 1991 ETH ETH 1 Sabadell (ESP) 13 FEB 2018
2 8:34.45 Sifan HASSAN 01 JAN 1993 NED NED 1f4 Seattle (USA) 27 JAN 2018
3 8:36.01 Shelby HOULIHAN 08 FEB 1993 USA USA 1f1 Boston (USA) 03 FEB 2018
3 8:36.01 Konstanze KLOSTERHALFEN 18 FEB 1997 GER GER 1 Dortmund (GER) 18 FEB 2018
5 8:38.81 Hellen OBIRI 13 DEC 1989 KEN KEN 1 Ostrava (CZE) 25 JAN 2018
6 8:39.15 Beatrice CHEPKOECH 06 JUL 1991 KEN KEN 2 Ostrava (CZE) 25 JAN 2018
7 8:39.55 Fantu WORKU 29 MAR 1999 ETH ETH 3 Ostrava (CZE)
Houlihan had some pacing for her race, but has a devastating kick. I would give her the edge for a medal at World's over KK, depending of course which Africans run it. Anyone have any idea whether Muir is running the 1500 or 3000?
Laura is doubling (1500/3000), so are Dibaba and Hassan. Not sure about Obiri.
According to this article:
Hellen Obiri will focus on the 3000.
So will Konstanze Klosterhalfen: