Slowest time for that gets you on every team.
Slowest time for that gets you on every team.
4:20 walk on nearly everywhere?
I'd say something under 4:04 for 1600m.
So 4:03.99, I guess.
Even at Oregon there are often guys who ran 4:20.
The question was about "every single [college] team."
There are some teams that don't ordinarily take distance runners, but for a sub-4:04 they'd probably be willing to make an exception.
roblox oof sound wrote:
4:20 walk on nearly everywhere?
Not even close. Even many mediocre teams aren’t keen on taking 4:20ish guys (assuming that’s the kid’s best time- i.e. no superior 800 or 3200). Usually it’s an issue of limited roster spots and resources, or sometimes coaches simply don’t like having walk-ons.
Todol wrote:
roblox oof sound wrote:
4:20 walk on nearly everywhere?
Not even close. Even many mediocre teams aren’t keen on taking 4:20ish guys (assuming that’s the kid’s best time- i.e. no superior 800 or 3200). Usually it’s an issue of limited roster spots and resources, or sometimes coaches simply don’t like having walk-ons.
Coaches might not want walk ons but what is the time that would interest even those types of programs?
I say 4:04.
I will concur with 4:04. Stanovsek ran 4:10 in HS and was told by the Oregon staff that he wasn’t fast enough to walk on so he showed up and ran on the club team where he dropped to 3:45 before they relented and let him on the team. Most of the visitors to this site are obviously not in the business of coaching or they would know how strict some teams are with recruiting. If talking transfers, it is probably close to 4 minutes.
Yes they ran 4:20 when they were sophomores in HS. They ran 4:05 as seniors. That is unless you mean the 400 or 800 guys. Yes, most of them ran 4:20 in HS doubling back after a 47 400 or 1:52 800.
its the minimum standard at nau, dude. "Check the statistacks"-big shaq
NAU is more willing to develop guys than Oregon or Stanford. They won’t touch guys unless they are 4 minute milers.
Four O'Four wrote:
Todol wrote:
Not even close. Even many mediocre teams aren’t keen on taking 4:20ish guys (assuming that’s the kid’s best time- i.e. no superior 800 or 3200). Usually it’s an issue of limited roster spots and resources, or sometimes coaches simply don’t like having walk-ons.
Coaches might not want walk ons but what is the time that would interest even those types of programs?
I say 4:04.
4:04 is a scholarship-caliber time at virtually any program that gives money to distance runners. 4:08-4:10ish is maybe closer to a “universal walk-on” time, though it will get scholarships at many places, and a few places might still turn you away for one reason or another.
roblox oof sound wrote:
its the minimum standard at nau, dude. "Check the statistacks"-big shaq
Maybe NAU lets 4:20 guys try to walk on. I don’t know. I do know unequivocally that plenty of places do not let 4:20 kids walk on.
I just hope you’re not a 4:20 kid who goes around telling people, “Yeah, I could get on any team in the country, they just wouldn’t give me a scholarship”. Because that is not even close to being true.
Probably more than 1/2 of the power 5 schools won’t respond to a 4:20 kid. Stanford, Oregon, Wisconsin, Syracuse, and Notre Dame won’t talk to you unless below 4:10 and there is no guarantee that they will allow you onto the team.
Todol wrote:
4:04 is a scholarship-caliber time at virtually any program that gives money to distance runners. 4:08-4:10ish is maybe closer to a “universal walk-on” time, though it will get scholarships at many places, and a few places might still turn you away for one reason or another.
^this. I was going to say under 4:10 would be close, depending on year etc., for most schools, but not a slam dunk. Basically I’d say the more under 4:10 you are the better your odds “every” school will take you.
Dude from my state walked on to a top-10 nationally ranked team with 1:56/4:19/9:11 and ran with them at Nattys so I would assume most schools would take times like that
winnr1 wrote:
Dude from my state walked on to a top-10 nationally ranked team with 1:56/4:19/9:11 and ran with them at Nattys so I would assume most schools would take times like that
Iḿ going to fix my statement as said team was top 5
There are so many threads pertaining to scholarships and walk-on times. Many people still don’t want to believe the people in the know because they always have their neighbor’s nephew who supposedly got a full ride for running a 4:25 mile winning the small school state meet. I am going to use a real example to that can actually be verified. It is tiring that people won’t respond with facts and information when others call them out on this site.
Iowa is at the bottom of the Big Ten distance programs but look deeper into the times and you will be surprised. They have 6 guys who have run 8:08-8:20 indoor 3k this year and 3 other guys who have PRs of 8:15-8:25. So that is 9 guys who can run 8:45-9:00 indoor 3200. Where does that put all of those 9:20 and 4:20 HS kids who think they can get a scholarship. Iowa has one of top sprint crews in the country and that is where they use their scholarships. Look at faster teams and you will see that they have 7 guys running 14 flat and sub 8:10.
Why not give his name? That is positive information that is verifiable: I would want that info out there if it was me or my friend. It is tiring when people use fake information to try to make a point. Give verifiable information if trying to educate the rest of us. Otherwise the naive end up believing it and they make college decisions based on lies.
Tyler Day, the 3rd place finisher at the 2017 NCAA XC championships, was a 4:20 miler in high school (although he had some impressive competitve performances). I wonder how many schools passed on him for his less than stellar times.
There are a number of factors that affect a runner’s performance in high school and development in college.