He is off to a flying start this year. This is one special athlete, and looking more and more likely to break Youngs WR... maybe this year.
He is off to a flying start this year. This is one special athlete, and looking more and more likely to break Youngs WR... maybe this year.
That is 45.68 for 400 meters, Kevin Young's longstanding 46.78 record may be in jeopardy.
This guy has yet to break 48 seconds outdoors (or indoors for that matter) in the 400 hurdles...has not really been that close.
In fact, he finished second to a runner a year younger in his 48.22 PR race in Zurich last summer.
I know he is white and all but let's not get too carried away.
Warholm is good and I hope he keeps improving. Hopefully he’ll be into the mid to low 47s this year
But Grant Holloway is the one who can break Young’s record
This Guy wrote:
This guy has yet to break 48 seconds outdoors (or indoors for that matter) in the 400 hurdles...has not really been that close.
In fact, he finished second to a runner a year younger in his 48.22 PR race in Zurich last summer.
I know he is white and all but let's not get too carried away.
1) You do realize he's much further ahead this year than last? Seems to have made it to another level. 47 low would not be a surprise this year.
2) Lol. carried away? Is getting carried away only reserved for the afro types? It is noticed. Cheserek, Brazier, Berian, etc.. etc. Talk about carried away!
Flo’da boy wrote:
Warholm is good and I hope he keeps improving. Hopefully he’ll be into the mid to low 47s this year
But Grant Holloway is the one who can break Young’s record
Holloway? Do you mean the 110 Hurdles?
Flo’da boy wrote:
Warholm is good and I hope he keeps improving. Hopefully he’ll be into the mid to low 47s this year
But Grant Holloway is the one who can break Young’s record
Good call on Grant Holloway after his leg on the 4 x 400 at the NCAA combined with his hurdling ability, that is what I thought 400 Hurdles WR, Holloway is amazing he could be a huge star in either hurdles or sprints or jumps, The Track World has a MAJOR STAR on the way, the question is what event/s.
douglas burke wrote:
Flo’da boy wrote:
Warholm is good and I hope he keeps improving. Hopefully he’ll be into the mid to low 47s this year
But Grant Holloway is the one who can break Young’s record
Good call on Grant Holloway after his leg on the 4 x 400 at the NCAA combined with his hurdling ability, that is what I thought 400 Hurdles WR, Holloway is amazing he could be a huge star in either hurdles or sprints or jumps, The Track World has a MAJOR STAR on the way, the question is what event/s.
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Warholm is already major star. This result bodes well for this year.
I would expect to see him run a 44 high 400 and low 47s for the 400H.
This Guy wrote:
This guy has yet to break 48 seconds outdoors (or indoors for that matter) in the 400 hurdles...has not really been that close.
In fact, he finished second to a runner a year younger in his 48.22 PR race in Zurich last summer.
I know he is white and all but let's not get too carried away.
Warholm ran 44.8 for the flat 400 last year and 48.22, and produced a gold medal run against some very good competition in London.
He seems to be running very well this year also, and you don't need to be JK Rowling to imagine him running 0.23 seconds faster.
YMMV wrote:
douglas burke wrote:
Good call on Grant Holloway after his leg on the 4 x 400 at the NCAA combined with his hurdling ability, that is what I thought 400 Hurdles WR, Holloway is amazing he could be a huge star in either hurdles or sprints or jumps, The Track World has a MAJOR STAR on the way, the question is what event/s.
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Warholm and Holloway are about the same age. Warholm has a gold medal. Holloway is not quite world class ready.
You do know that Warholm could have easily been a world class decathlete? His marks from 100 meters, to long jump, high jump, the throws, and longer distance are incredible.
pottle kettle blak? wrote:
[quote]This Guy wrote:
This guy has yet to break 48 seconds outdoors (or indoors for that matter) in the 400 hurdles...has not really been that close.
In fact, he finished second to a runner a year younger in his 48.22 PR race in Zurich last summer.
I know he is white and all but let's not get too carried away.
1) You do realize he's much further ahead this year than last? Seems to have made it to another level. 47 low would not be a surprise this year. What about going from 48.84 secs in 2016 to 48.22 supports your claim 47 low would not surprise? Other than his whiteness, of course?
[quote]Factor 18 wrote:
Warholm and Holloway are about the same age.
Warholm DOB is 2/28/96; Holloway's is 11/19/97.
So Warholm will be 22 in two weeks while Holloway just turned 20.
Is age 20 about the same as age 22?
YikeZ wrote:
pottle kettle blak? wrote:
[quote]This Guy wrote:
This guy has yet to break 48 seconds outdoors (or indoors for that matter) in the 400 hurdles...has not really been that close.
In fact, he finished second to a runner a year younger in his 48.22 PR race in Zurich last summer.
I know he is white and all but let's not get too carried away.
1) You do realize he's much further ahead this year than last? Seems to have made it to another level. 47 low would not be a surprise this year. What about going from 48.84 secs in 2016 to 48.22 supports your claim 47 low would not surprise? Other than his whiteness, of course?
He was doing a lot of other events and don't think he focused on the 400 hurdles til recently. He improved his 400 flat speed a ton from 2016 to 2017 and that was probably a good indicator for the hurdles. I don't think he got the technical aspect of the hurdles in 2017 but should have been even high 47s last year.
Interesting, do you really think so? Young's record has been around so long it's hard to imagine anyone breaking it. No
one else has even run below 47 seconds.
Why is Young's record so untouchable? Was it his 12/13 alternating step method, or something else? Or do we not routinely
see athletes so talented focus on the 400m hurdles? Maybe Warholm is the rare talent who can approach it. Is he big enough to alternate 12/13 steps like Young?
[quote]YikeSSS wrote:
[quote]YikeZ wrote:
I don't think he got the technical aspect of the hurdles in 2017 but should have been even high 47s last year.
Okay. Not only should he be in the low 47s this year, he should have been in the hi 47s last year.
So he is to be judged solely on what he should do, not his actual times.
Got it.
Good run but 300m hurdles indoors is scaping the barrel of records.
douglas burke wrote:
That is 45.68 for 400 meters, Kevin Young's longstanding 46.78 record may be in jeopardy.
What do you mean "that is"??
Yes, 34.26 * 4/3 = 45.6, but what genius says that 300 time projects linearly onto 400 time like that? Of course it doesn't!
Hey, this guy Bolt ran 30.9 for the 300. 'That is 41.2 for the 400'! Wayde van Niekerk's 43.03 record may be in jeopardy!
Wrong. Add two seconds to the directly multiplied time. Based on a 34-low 300h, maybe Warholm can run 47-high for 400h.
This Guy wrote:
This guy has yet to break 48 seconds outdoors (or indoors for that matter) in the 400 hurdles...has not really been that close.
In fact, he finished second to a runner a year younger in his 48.22 PR race in Zurich last summer.
I know he is white and all but let's not get too carried away.
Just stop it, with your common sense. Letsrun fanboys don't need that. I'm still holding out for Lemaître to start eclipsing Bolt by running regular 9.6s like they predicted.
YikeSSS wrote:
YikeZ wrote:
1) You do realize he's much further ahead this year than last? Seems to have made it to another level. 47 low would not be a surprise this year. What about going from 48.84 secs in 2016 to 48.22 supports your claim 47 low would not surprise? Other than his whiteness, of course?
He was doing a lot of other events and don't think he focused on the 400 hurdles til recently. He improved his 400 flat speed a ton from 2016 to 2017 and that was probably a good indicator for the hurdles. I don't think he got the technical aspect of the hurdles in 2017 but should have been even high 47s last year.
The biggest mistake that people make about the 400H is that they assume the technical aspect of the event will just "come" to you at some point or another. Some (even most) athletes will never get it right. Remember that Edwin Moses is the only person in the history of the event who has ever been able to consistently 13-step a race. Even look at a Kerron Clement, arguably a more physically gifted athlete than Moses, who has never managed to run faster nor been anywhere close to as consistent.
This 34.2 WR is a moot point, hardly any professional hurdler has ever even attempted the race. When I was a collegiate 400 hurdler, we would run sub-36 in reps over the first 8 as a speed workout. Warholm is a good athlete in a time in the event where good is good enough to win a major championship. We will just have to see what he does, there is nothing about him that "screams" sub-48, and theres certainly less that screams 47-low. Maybe he can, maybe he can't. Time will tell.