Actual 800 runner. At least your stuff makes sense. Weakmind is all over the place.
Still disagree, think it was a bit of an overestimation on berians part. And like U mentioned, a small mismanagement in energy in an 8 and it costs you multiple seconds which is a big deal.
Not sure of why there is so much talk of a 1:44 though. He won worlds in 1:45.8 going out in 49.7. Indoors, it’s super effective to get out hard and get the rail. Especially if you’re a 4-8 guy like him.
1:44.99 would be an American record, as I’m sure you know. No way he thought he was running 1:44 and a runner like him to run something like that needs to be out in 1:16 point at least to run a 1:44 anything. The only 28 can be the last one and it’d have to be 28 low.
I’ve never criticized him for going out in first. Or fast. But in your first race in 18 months or whatever, 50.2 is ridiculous. And it showed on the fourth lap.
And as far as the 5k goes, there are VERY few truly elite 5k guys that do anything similar whatsoever to what Berian did on a longer scale. The example I gave was specific to Chelimo because he is basically a 12:55 guy that hasn’t found a 12:55 race yet. No other reason than the splits are easy. He isn’t gonna show up to a race and do something like this.
I watched it live. Berians last 250 looked rough (obviously. First to last does that) but he was slowing down so rapidly, DB passed him in like 3 strides. If he went 51.0-26.xx and ran a 1:17 and then kinda jogged in, id consider the possibility of this being a HARD 600 effort with little to not regard for the last 200. But, this was rigging up because he pressed too hard the second lap. His first lap was fine. 24 high. (He went it in 23.93 at worlds, which is ridiculous).
And I just hate the guts thing for taking it out super hard. That Kenyan dude who ran 48 for the first lap a couple years ago at juniors...that’s not guts. That’s stupid. This was either a bit of a bad idea, or it was a miscalculation by him (even possibly caused by feeling good 200 in, by “modest” first 200 split by his standards).
Either way, not a huge deal. This was started cause rojo said this was pure guts and chez was a kinda ordinary performance.