Rotich the Rotich wrote:
My point is, higher mileage equals better durablilty and faster recovery. It would definitely help someone navigate though championship rounds.
I saw a quote from Peter about this a few weeks ago. He something like "how fast you can run depends on doing as much race paced work as you can and the more aerobic running you do the more race paced training you'll be able to handle."
Everyone poster here's broke 4:00. Didn't you know that??
A million little high schoolers went faster than 4:00. Why is this all of a sudden a huge deal? Oh we know...
Others have posted Bannister, and they're right. Lots of guys have "beaten" Brazier in this bizarre department, but if they're palefaces they don't count. That's how LR is from top to bottom. Cucked.
A 1:43 800m runner with an XC background can run 2 1:59s in a row? No way.
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/26/26805e14bee99a94139ad2151dd955bec4f20daf8ceb0d02fbc62ac973fe9320.jpg
The only point of this post was to drive people to his stupid article to get more page views and boost ad revenue. They can't get people to read that crap so they are resorting basically begging people on the message boards to click.
John Landy's longest run in training was 7 miles.
Landy was also interval trained, but he preferred to run 600-yard (.55 km) intervals in about 88 to 89 seconds each, a pace of about 59 seconds per quarter mile (.4 km). The Australian typically carried out 8 to 12 of these 600-yard runs per workout, with 4 minutes of slow jogging between each hard run. Landy was a true midnight rambler, doing most of his training around midnight after a hard day of studying. In addition to five interval workouts per week, Landy found time to hit about three weekly 7-mile (11 km) jaunts.
Bannister's was four miles.
I thought Bannister never did workouts longer than 45 minutes before he broke 4 minutes because of the demands of medical school. I remember hearing somewhere that his longest run was 7 miles before he broke 4.
But I could be wrong.
I personally did a long run with Donovan during the summer and he only had 40 minutes that day and I think he said that earlier in the season he might do 50 minutes.
The 22-milers would be one reason they’re not running faster.
PortlandXCgirl wrote:
PortlandXCgirl wrote:
My prediction: 7 miles
Not too far off. Still shocking though. Imagine how many mile-specialist college guys are out there who do 22 mile long runs every weekend and only manage a 4:05.
Oh really?
Yeah. Georgetown’s Mike Stahr rarely went over 10 Miles for long runs and he went sub 4 at one point.
Rudisha's longest ever run is 13km.... He could jog a 4 minute mile if he wanted. These guys train to run fast, not jog about aimlessly. It's all about the specificity.
Hardloper wrote:
Bannister ran cross country in the fall where races were up to 10 miles.
Only the southern and national championships were 9 miles at most. Bannister would never have done these. He'd have run the university xc races which would be 6 or 7 at most.
I don't get how doing poor training is something to be proud of. He would run faster for a mile if he trained properly but at least he's an 800m runner.
IHideBehindFacts61 wrote:
Yeah. Georgetown’s Mike Stahr rarely went over 10 Miles for long runs and he went sub 4 at one point.
Ovett didn't run over 10, according to information posted about his training. Of course, he would do do 10 twice a day sometimes.
Henry Marsh is the poster child for minimal training, but he did often run 10 once a week.
chang wrote:
IHideBehindFacts61 wrote:
Yeah. Georgetown’s Mike Stahr rarely went over 10 Miles for long runs and he went sub 4 at one point.
Ovett didn't run over 10, according to information posted about his training. Of course, he would do do 10 twice a day sometimes.
Henry Marsh is the poster child for minimal training, but he did often run 10 once a week.
Yes, but Ovett ran a half once so rojo would pounce on that run as the one which gave Ovett his ability.
chang wrote:
Ovett didn't run over 10, according to information posted about his training. Of course, he would do do 10 twice a day sometimes.
I thought he was doing upwards toward 20 mile long runs? I know he was doing 115 mpw during base training - so I would think his LR would be more than 10. ?
http://bookofrunning.com/800m/how-anaerobic-is-the-800m/I read that article too and jogged around for about 3 miles. It was in Runners World.
I actually ran sub 4 the other day and my longest run ever was when some darn kids vandalized my grill and ran off....chased them a whole 250m before I caught them
PS - I ran that 250m in ~ 22 seconds so I also have a bit of speed along with my sub-4 endurance
The distance craze didn’t start until the 70s so I would bet that many of the sub4 guys in the mid 1960s did it on many repeat 200s and 400s without any real long run.
