an amazing race. i've always wondered if Soratos could have outkicked Cheserek in the last 200m if he waited and kept it slower? Seems like he has more raw speed but tired himself out with the super-duper burst. Sortaos probably had no chance to beat cheserek on that day with any strategy though. 2:19!
whatever, it was one of the best indoor races ever. Cheserek basically ran a top 10 all-time 1000m time at the end of a mile and still ran 3:57
I don't think he has a chance to do it. You can't convert an altitude time down to sea level for Kenyans by using the NCAA altitude converter, because that is based on averages for mostly sea level raised athletes.
But he can run 3:51 high in this race. Very strong. The only guys under 3:50 are all-time greats and Ches has never run under 3:36 even.
Scorpion_runner wrote:
100m wrote:
Is he going to be mostly a 1500 and mile guy? I assumed he'd focus more on 5000/10000.
He has plenty of time to go after that. I think he will go the bernard lagat route: 1500/5000m, and we need more of those types of runners. We don't have one. Matt Centro is not strong enough.
Jenkins fits that bill pretty well. Not quite as dominant at the mile but he has a 3:35/3:53 and a wannamaker mile win.
No but he has run 3:52, and he seemed a little 'off' last year when he ran that. It would be pretty tough for him to get sub 3:50 but I think he can get close. He's on fire this year.
3:53 on a 200m flat track isn't too bad. Not sure what his pacing was like in that race, though.
No. His ego is too big.
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Q&A with Stephen Haas about Ches here:
I'm so sick of people saying altitude conversions don't work on Kenyans. Ches hasn't trained at altitude (until a couple months ago) for probably a decade!
I just keep thinking about Soratos who ran like 4:03 on a flat track at altitude and everybody blew him off...then he ran 3:54 or something, beating the 3:55 conversion.
but still...3:50.12 is my prediction because he will be solo after the rabbits drop.
If Ches says he will break 3:50 then he will break 3:50. Watch and learn!
ZluperMcbeepBop wrote:
Rotich the Rotich wrote:
https://youtu.be/PqPCRM5d-hkHe closed a 3:57 race in 2:19 for the last 1k.
That was 3 years ago. I think he can do it.
This is still one of my favourite races of all time. Say what you want, but Soratos has guts, and Ches has speed
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Say you get 2 to 1 odds that he breaks 3:50...
Expect Great Things!!! Yes, King Ches will break 3:50! He's on a mission from God, and also to prove Sketchers can move at the speed of blurry. Apparently, the only reason his citizenship is taking so long is that some deep state Democrat holdouts at the INS got word that King Ches is a big Trump Supporter and have put some sand on the already slow gears of the bureaucratic process. Fear not, since Ivanka and Jared are big fans of Edward and will be lobbying for a quikened pace before any immigration legislation gets passed limiting the maximum number of runners with superior VO2max levels to apply for citizenship.
M.A.G.A.
But what if he does it wrote:
I'm not a big fan of him (probably for only stupid subjective reasons).....
What if Edward Cheserek goes under 3:50?! In Skechers?!
He has run a few awesome races lately and is less than a year out of college and could be joining the ranks of legends. Even if he misses and runs 3:50.x-3:51.x, that's incredible.
.... I am a fan of his ability to race fast and how he ran so many races in college to help his team. I'm also a huge fan of track and field, so if a young dude like this who wants to become a US citizen can chase super fast times and hit them, then I am a fan of that.
I'm excited and hope he does something special.
I guess I'm becoming a Ches fan....
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're a fan. And the reasons you are a fan of his are intelligent ones. The reasons you claim to "not (be) a big fan of him", are yes, probably "stupid" ones as you suggested.
Is there a live stream for the meet tonight?
I'm getting back on the band wagon wrote:
My feelings towards Ches have been up and down over the last few years.
First I thought he was amazing and I couldn't be happier when he started winning his races his sophomore year. But then from his sophomore spring - his senior year I always rooted against him because he was unbeatable and would constantly sit-and-kick (ironic since that is how I prefer to race...but that is besides the point!). But now, following his injury and signing with Sketchers... I think he is just awesome again. I mean, everyone counted him out. We didn't even see him race for a few months until a poor showing in the road mile in NY. Then he goes and does this. If he keeps doing this well I would even consider buying King Ches spikes if they came out with them.
Truthfully.
Are you the same guy I just replied to?? Because you too sound like a fan, no matter what reasons you invented in the past to convince yourself you didn't like him.
And BTW, he didn't "start.. winning his races his sophomore year." Seriously??? No, he won right out of the gate. he was NCAA D1 X-C (you know The Big Enchilada/Big Dance) CHAMP his very first/frosh year. Then he won: the indoors 3k/5k double, and barely missed winning the 5k/10k double. I though everyone knew that. Sophmore year?
(unless somehow you were referring to HS, which I highly doubt. If so, disregard, carry on....)
It staggers me that anyone can’t root for this guy.
He basically carried Oregon on his back for 5 years, winning multiple national titles at the sane meets against people the same age who were only running one event. Some of his titles were also when he chose to do relay events as well to help the team.
He turned down Nike and was his own man choosing Sketchers. Yes he probably got a great contract, but he earned it based on the previous 5 years. Imagine the hatred if he joined NOP.
He has chosen an unknown and unproven coach and is training on his own in Flagstaff rather than choosing the easier option of joining a Bowerman or OTC group, with more established coaches and training partners...and he’s crushing it so far, despite being injured during the summer and autumn.
He’s waiting on US citizenship which is preventing him going to US or World championships now, rather than probably an easier option of Kenya at 5/10k based on recent performances v his current form.
The fact he’s gone with Haas, is crushing it at altitude largely alone (albeit with a few local runners based on social media) and is going balls to the wall in all his races this year should turn anyone into a believer.
Whether he breaks 3.50 or doesn’t, the fact he’s going got it and probably has a real shot says it all.
who else in the race?
3:49! losers!
Event 41 Men 1 Mile Run Invitational
Heat 1 of 1
1 Cheserek, Ed SKET 3:49.44
-- Piazza, Drew USA DNF
-- Campbell, Kamoy REBO DNS
-- Kidder, Brandon BRKS DNF
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