Agreed. If there was an environment of hazing and initiation on both men’s and women’s teams, they need to shut the whole thing down. Absolutely no place for it.
Agreed. If there was an environment of hazing and initiation on both men’s and women’s teams, they need to shut the whole thing down. Absolutely no place for it.
The female athletes on the team were across town at rival Occidental. There they burst into the student center to steal the statue of the Oxy mascot. During the caper, several of the naked female athletes held down a male student who was working the information desk. The male student is not pressing charges and has suggested the team return next week to steal more items.
former d1 coach wrote:
What about having fun in life? My goodness.
Yes they shouldn't have 'assaulted' an employee but holding someone down while you take a photo is called being stupid in college, not an assault.
When I was a senior in college, me and the fun roommate were shooting fireworks out the dorm window. Our "responsible"roommate said, "Are you guys crazy? You could hit someone or start a fire and be expelled." We turned to each other and said, "Damn. He's right. We hadn't thought of that."
Now 20 years later, I can't remember if we kept shooting them off. I actually believe we did as it was fun.
I hope you made all of that up. If not someone please lock this man up and throw away the key.
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former d1 coach wrote:
What about having fun in life? My goodness.
Yes they shouldn't have 'assaulted' an employee but holding someone down while you take a photo is called being stupid in college, not an assault.
When I was a senior in college, me and the fun roommate were shooting fireworks out the dorm window. Our "responsible"roommate said, "Are you guys crazy? You could hit someone or start a fire and be expelled." We turned to each other and said, "Damn. He's right. We hadn't thought of that."
Now 20 years later, I can't remember if we kept shooting them off. I actually believe we did as it was fun.
I hope you made all of that up. If not someone please lock this man up and throw away the key.
Did basically the same thing 10 years ago & it was a hoot. Would do it again.
RANDOM HALL MIT RULES! Holding someone is extra credit, it's called Walk the Bear...
At least one of the three colleges involved, Mudd, Scripps and Claremont McKenna has a "code of honor" that students sign upon entering campus. It basically asks the students to maintain both academic and social integrity and outlines consequences in failing to do so. One would assume that this event would break this code of conduct if the athlete is affiliated with that particular campus.
these guys are local legends. Probably should b suspended for a week or two but still legends. Kicking them out of school is the most criminal act in this story. These must not b the scholarship speedsters or they would never have been caught in first place. Must b d3 walk ons.
Stag -R -ing wrote:
At least one of the three colleges involved, Mudd, Scripps and Claremont McKenna has a "code of honor" that students sign upon entering campus.
"Despite the prankster nature of the students, the administration trusts students and there is a school-wide honor code" at Harvey Mudd college.
Raggie4 wrote:
these guys are local legends. Probably should b suspended for a week or two but still legends. Kicking them out of school is the most criminal act in this story. These must not b the scholarship speedsters or they would never have been caught in first place. Must b d3 walk ons.
There arent any "scholarship speedsters" at CMS...
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1) it would have been assault if they were clothed too.
2) you really think that being held down by a group of naked strangers sounds exactly the same as being held down by a group of clothed strangers?
3) seeing a naked person at a party isn't the same. You could have left at any time. This is a person at work when suddenly six naked strangers burst in and pin you down.
You really don't get why the person subjected to this may have felt victimized? Saying you don't understand is akin to saying you are willing to accept this happening to your self or anybody else you know. How would your mother feel in this situation, caught completely by surprise and pinned down by naked men? What about a younger sibling?
Don't get me wrong, the fact that they didn't have malicious intent is deserving of leniency. But they definitely deserve some punishment. This is a crime. They should be given the minimum sentence for what they did, but they shouldn't get away with this with no consequences.
If their prank demanded stealing a picture, they should have done so wearing clothes and non violently. Even that would have consequences if they were caught, but it would have been less severe.
1) So would noogies, fivestars, and purple nurples if we are being literal, what's your point?
2) I never said exact, I said aside from precious feelings what is the difference? I'd still like to hear an answer to that.
3) The point wasn't that it is the same, it was that it is not a traumatic or harming experience.
I get why the person would be upset or annoyed. I get why they might say "f*ck you guys" or try and resist them with force of his own. I don't, however, get why they would feel victimized to the point of taking legal action (to be fair, it never said what the students thoughts are, he may not even care). If it were my mother is irrelevant, because it was a male student, not an older women. If it were my younger bother, I'd have a good laugh. Like I said, the university has to establish some form punishment, but news stories and getting the police involved is just stupid.
1) I dont know what a "five star" is, but walk up to a random stranger tomorrow and give them a noogie. Do it with a big friendly smile on your face so they know you have positive intentions. Report back with how well that went for you.
2) The difference between being pinned down by naked people and clothed people is the possible expectation of what is coming. A reasonable person may expect a much worse assault when the attackers are naked compared to clothed. Either way, a reasonable person may expect the attack to be much more serious than just being held down. They dont realizs as it is happening that it is just a stupid college prank.
3) ok, we will have to disagree about it being a potentially harmful or traumatic experience. Strange, since you then go on to talk about how you think it would be normal to fight back, that seems to imply you think it could be harmful.
My guess is you were involved or just lack empathy. I don't think I would be too bothered after the fact if this happened to me, and I wouldnt press charges. But i can sure see how some people might be traumatized by this.
I'm also perplexed by why you think it is irrelevant if it were and old woman who was attacked, because it was a male who was attacked. Are you saying if it was an old woman manning the desk that night, you would be on board with legal action?
Update: Woman's team reinstated, all men remain suspended
bigbentheflyinghen wrote:
Sooooo does this mean they are cancelling their Rossi Relays track meet?
Unlikely considering that multiple schools would be affected. Their athletes might not be able to participate in their own meet, though.
Talk about sexism and gender discrimination.... Society is sure twisted.
This school newspaper is ridiculous. They're butthurt that track athletes are "stealing" newspapers and throwing them away.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Rest in Peace Adrian Lehmann - 2:11 Swiss marathoner. Dies of heart attack.
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
I think Letesenbet Gidey might be trying to break 14 this Saturday
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!