I haven't figured out how to push start an automatic .
I haven't figured out how to push start an automatic .
Driving a manual is 50 times more fun that auto. You also get better milage and more control/torque when you need it.
It's paid for?
A lot of cars don't cut off fuel as you said. Although they should. And you can coast for a really long time in neutral. More than if in gear. It outweighs the fuel sipping in neutral. Especially if you turn the car off. ;).
Hypermiling musings ignoring the safety concerns of eoc (engine off coasting)
I used to be so into hypermiling Jesus Christ. Used to average about 50mpg in my 2009 Corolla automatic. Would've loved to had a manual in retrospect.
My 2009 Honda rebel I've averaged 125-140mpg for the entirety I've owned it. Love that thing.
In other news. I've gone off topic. Sorry.
Manual allows for more hypermiling, more understanding of how a car actually works (less black box mentality). They're cheaper and the transmissions last way longer. But yes as less and less people know how to use them, the resale value goes down a bit maybe even more than the cost savings of getting it in the first place.
Manual also keeps you from texting and driving. Or generally being distracted with a free hand. That's a good thing
The EPA ratings are similar. But in real world you can exceed EPA mpg a lot if hypermiling is your goal, and much more in a manual.
Manual transmissions are also cheaper and simpler, less things to go wrong. And as another poster said. You can roll start it if your battery is dead, that's nice.
But yeah itsa. Dying breed especially in urban USA. Rural it makes some more sense. Or third world countries I've been in where mechanics are more familiar with manual, easier to fix, less computer Bs, etc.
But you're right. The differences aren't that huge if I got another car a manual or automatic wouldn't make a big difference to me.
You clearly don't understand fanaticism.
There are people who pay thousands for revolver that hold 6 rounds.
I think I've only owned one automatic vehicle. Nearly all of my cars since my first in 1986 have been manual, and I learned stick on an old style Austin mini when I was 16 in 1981. Also, 100% of my motorcycles have been manual. :-)
I live in Europe; we lived in Rome for a year, and there is was virtually impossible to rent an automatic (not that I would have, but we had friends who preferred them). Now I live in northern Europe and it's more like a 50-50 mix.
I thought I read a while ago that car makers were all stopping to offer manual options for sale in the US, since automatics are so widely preferred. This, to me, is the first sign of the decline of the American empire... everyone's too lazy to learn to drive the proper way. :-)
Oh, and on the topic of having difficulty with stick on hills; most modern European cars are set up so that the car will not reverse (slide back down hill) while in neutral, making it way easier for crappy drivers to navigate hilly roads...