Katelyn Tuohy 4th 4:47 Mile Millrose

S1 wrote:

Unfortunately lots of NY schools in the area run these young girls into the ground. It’s a shame to see

OMG she has one bad race, her coaches are definitely running her into the ground. I mean any coach who can get kids to run fast is obviously destroying them. She should be playing volleyball and hitting the weight room to develop her running, not actually running.

Ever heard of Mary Cain?

ktfannn wrote:

What happened? I saw the live results but not the race....

The three runners who beat her are very simply much faster than her now.

She had a bad race. One. It happens to everybody. Just keep in mind a bad race for her is better than 99.9 % of girls in high school running the race of their life. Are we forgetting when Chmiel almost didn't qualify for NXN? Or when Tuohy beat Starliper in a less than all out effort at the Millrose trials? I understand the expectations are high because of all the hype, but damn, for you people who seem to know everything, you clearly don't understand the concept of a bad race.

Chimes almost didn't get to NXN because she was sick.

The record chase is going to catch up to her, no doubt. Is the record chase her choice or is the coach looking to make a name for himself?

When watching the race initially, something seemed "off" a bit even with Katelyn leading by an open margin ... In all the race videos I've watched of Katelyn during XC and this indoor track season, Katelyn typically ran fast with minimal effort and straining ... At Millrose, she seemed to be forcing her pace noticeably and seemed to be running a bit tighter than normal ... That was also my opinion after watching the full race video several times at USATF.tv.

Her coach's reaction was noted in a newspaper article in Lohud noted below.

Race winner Gabrielle Wilkinson has been very impressive during indoor ... Kelsey Chmiel now has head-to-head wins over both Katelyn Tuohy and Claudia Lane in major races.

From the newspaper article Link:

https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/high-school/track/2018/02/03/stunner-tuohy-loses-lead-and-millrose-mile-during-last-lap-flynn-w-personal-best/1089108001/

"Despite her lead, Diglio knew early on something was wrong.

Aiming to break 4:40, she was behind her projected 800-meter split by three seconds, he noted. She completed 809 meters in 2:19.18.

Diglio rushed to the finish well before Tuohy relinquished her lead, worried she was injured.

In fact, his concern began after just 400 meters.

He said after the race she reported she never felt right but was unhurt.

“She was struggling from the beginning,” Diglio said. … “She didn’t have it.”

But Diglio also credited her opponents in the 13-athlete race, saying they had run smart and never allowed Tuohy to get too far in front.

“You show any weakness and they’ll pounce,” he said.

“It’s a tough loss for Katelyn,” Diglio said. “You don’t always win. Part of being a great runner is learning how to lose. This is pretty big adversity today and a bitter pill to swallow.”"

This loss will probably be good for her in the long run. She won't have this crazy 'unbeaten track' streak hanging over her. Remember how Sarah Baxter was undefeated all 4 years of XC (including 2 NXNs) until the very last NXN race?

That kind of pressure can drive a kid insane.

Wait, he wanted her to break 4:40 and 2:19 at 809m was too slow? He needs to learn how to run a mile before giving advice on splits.

Go back and read what you wrote wrote:

Bubbadeeboos wrote:

Touhy was quoted somewhere (maybe a preview article or race announcers) that she was going for the record tonight... just something in the 4:40 range. She might have been sick or had some other reason to downplay expectations.

How would it be "downplay(ing) expectations" to say "she was going for the record tonight"?

wasn’t, sorry. Typo

tomorrow night (monday) at the armory is a meet called the varsity classic which always has a very solid dmr (teams chasing bin or penn qualifying times) North Rockland is entered (limited teams get in) and they have run and won a few times in the past. This race has been something they have done before. If KT runs will be interesting to see how she bounces back

ny ned wrote:

tomorrow night (monday) at the armory is a meet called the varsity classic which always has a very solid dmr (teams chasing bin or penn qualifying times) North Rockland is entered (limited teams get in) and they have run and won a few times in the past. This race has been something they have done before. If KT runs will be interesting to see how she bounces back

Are you serious? Is she going to race again? How many races/meets in the last 10 days?

Really? if true they should imprison the coach for child abuse. burning out american high school runners is a standard. but with her its especially obvious

Well they are entered will have to wait and see if she runs - to get into NBIN and Penn they need to run a time

http://www.jacobbrown.com/EntryForms/VarsityClassicEntryPage/2018-VC-DM.pdf

semenyagoat wrote:

Really? if true they should imprison the coach for child abuse. burning out american high school runners is a standard. but with her its especially obvious

Can’t wait til Legend Tuohy wrecks the next race she runs and these haters are forced to go crawl back into a hole.

Why was it a bad race?? Because she didn't win? Who said she's a miler? Why necessary to win everything? What about gaining race experience? Point being: talking to press, setting too high goals - bad idea. Too early in career for that. Coach/parents/Tuohy herself can restrict press access and not setting too high expectations. Shouldn't be such a "bitter pill" to not win IN A RECORD TIME at the age of 15. They're all getting ahead of themselves - need to Slow It Down.

Katelyn Touhy is going to be the next Mary Cain

Well up until this year, she has definitely been a 1500/miler. She split 4:45 in a DMR in 8th grade, and ran a 4:18 1500 last year. So naturally, given her cross country season, the expectations for her as a miler were high this year. The 3k is probably her event as of now, though.

Wait a minute... wrote:

Why was it a bad race?? Because she didn't win? Who said she's a miler? .

4:18 for 1500 with a 9:53 3K PR as a 9th grader means you are a miler.

How can you be so sure--you act like she is near her max potential when she is 15 years old! As a freshman she won the 1500 m NYS title in 4:18 handily beating Chmiel and company. For a long time Rupp had a poor kick but with hard work he overcame this as Touhy will probably do eventually.