I'm doing them everyday 15min high knees, butt kicks, single leg bounding etc ... but i don't know if it's going to give me the same results as spending that time running or weight lifting would
I'm doing them everyday 15min high knees, butt kicks, single leg bounding etc ... but i don't know if it's going to give me the same results as spending that time running or weight lifting would
No. There’s no evidence that drills work because they don’t. People who disagree with me will cite their use by elite athletes as “evidence,” but this is a gross logical fallacy leading to total failure of an analysis.
Rational Exercise wrote:
No. There’s no evidence that drills work because they don’t. People who disagree with me will cite their use by elite athletes as “evidence,” but this is a gross logical fallacy leading to total failure of an analysis.
There is plenty of evidence. Don't be blinded by the light, embrace it.
P.S
Don't tell me - global warming is made up too huh? Tin hat brigade.
Any benefits can be obtained to a much greater degree by running and focussing on whatever you are trying to do with drills.
Drills are a way for sprinters to avoid hard work.
they have infected distance runners wrote:
Any benefits can be obtained to a much greater degree by running and focussing on whatever you are trying to do with drills.
Drills are a way for sprinters to avoid hard work.
Are you telling me that you are too lazy to do 5 minutes of drills as a part of the warm up before a hard workout?
Rational Exercise wrote:
No. There’s no evidence that drills work because they don’t. People who disagree with me will cite their use by elite athletes as “evidence,” but this is a gross logical fallacy leading to total failure of an analysis.
Then I suggest that you give me evidence that they don´t work. You see, good training is training that produces results. Perhaps you should learn a thing or two from elite runners, and maybe one day you´ll be able to break 18 for the 5k.
Rational Exercise wrote:
No. There’s no evidence that drills work because they don’t. People who disagree with me will cite their use by elite athletes as “evidence,” but this is a gross logical fallacy leading to total failure of an analysis.
+1 running drills are worthless
Thierry1 wrote:
I'm doing them everyday 15min high knees, butt kicks, single leg bounding etc ... but i don't know if it's going to give me the same results as spending that time running or weight lifting would
Listen to your coach and do the drills. They are beneficial for improving strength and coordination. They also help with warming up before running. No downsides.
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they have infected distance runners wrote:
Any benefits can be obtained to a much greater degree by running and focussing on whatever you are trying to do with drills.
Drills are a way for sprinters to avoid hard work.
Are you telling me that you are too lazy to do 5 minutes of drills as a part of the warm up before a hard workout?
Any benefits can be obtained to a much greater degree by running and focussing on whatever you are trying to do with drills.
Please read that again. I do some more appropriate running. That's not lazy. It's smart.
Drills are no substitute for running, which is what they seem to be for many programs, but as a supplement, do they not improve strength, coordination, and flexibility while also helping prevent injuries and increasing speed and in an inconsequential amount of time?
LazyKiddo wrote:
Thierry1 wrote:
I'm doing them everyday 15min high knees, butt kicks, single leg bounding etc ... but i don't know if it's going to give me the same results as spending that time running or weight lifting would
Listen to your coach and do the drills. They are beneficial for improving strength and coordination. They also help with warming up before running. No downsides.
I agree with LazyKiddo in that there are no downsides to doing Running Drills. I do not think you have to do them for
15 minutes. Do them right. What is crazy is those distance runners who feel that improving there form will not help them get faster over long distances. In addition running drills can improve your power. We all need that.
Actually all distance runners and coaches should spend time every week talking to a sprint coach. Sprinting is a technical event. However a distance runner who improves his technique has advantage over one who does not. It's time well spent.
well,, wrote:
they have infected distance runners wrote:
Any benefits can be obtained to a much greater degree by running and focussing on whatever you are trying to do with drills.
Drills are a way for sprinters to avoid hard work.
Are you telling me that you are too lazy to do 5 minutes of drills as a part of the warm up before a hard workout?
He is not telling you anything because he doesn't know much.
Go to spend a day observing the Loudon Valley Boys, FM Girls, Great Oak kids, Naperville kids, American Fork kids, etc. they are all doing drills. It’s gotta be working.
Drills absolutely do not help with running in any way. I used to use drills before my runs and I never ran any faster because of it. All I ended up with is a bunch of tiny holes in the walls of my house.
Thierry1 wrote:
I'm doing them everyday 15min high knees, butt kicks, single leg bounding etc ... but i don't know if it's going to give me the same results as spending that time running or weight lifting would
Things like bounding I’d considered plyometrics, which have lots of evidence of improving running... mostly by improving running economy (speeds up the stretch shortening cycle so there’s a quicker rate of force application).
For drills like high knees and butt kicks, I haven’t seen much evidence and I’d imagine there are more direct ways to get the benefits (e.g. hill sprints or weight lifting).
I personally think there’s some benefit to using some form of drills in a warm up... not just in the sense of warming up the muscles but in waking up the brain/getting your balance and proprioception turned on. I do a ‘lunge matrix’ that Jay Johnson and others promote, plus some lateral skipping/shuffling/Carioca, backwards skipping, and backwards jogging figure 8s.
I’d also add that doing drills in front of a coach can be very useful in terms of diagnosing imbalances or detecting residual fatigue which may warrant altering a workout.
Running, lifting, plyos, drills, core, and suppleness training all work in concert with one another. As for drill they improve contact time, reaction from the ground, strength muscles for special strength need at high speeds and overload the muscles to handle being put through stretch shortening cycle thus limiting injury.
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