Official LRC Super Bowl LII Thread Eagles vs Patriots: Who Ya Got?

CanTheyBothLose wrote:

Eagles 27, Pats 20

This Eagles' D is suffocating and the AFC was a cake-walk this year.

You think their D is suffocating, yet they’ll give up 20?

RockDat$Kid wrote:

They got lucky last year.

The only lucky part was winning the OT coin toss.

Eagles 34

Patriots 0

$7500? That’s an impressive bet.

I think a lot of you are forgetting that the Pats real 12th man are the officials, and that’s going to be a huge asset tomorrow. Wait and see tomorrow... never bet against the house, the house always wins.

Be careful what you wish for wrote:

Another philly sports fan wrote:

No back up QB

The Pats' backup QB is essentially a Nick Foles clone.

It's not even close. Brian Hoyer, really? Bahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Career numbers: 48 TDs/30 INTs

Nick Foles

Career numbers: 61 TDs/29 INTs

Foles can start for several teams that need a veteran QB and he will be a sought after free agent after the game tomorrow. Meanwhile, Hoyer will always ride the bench for the rest of his career.

As a Pats fan, it pains me to say Eagles will win this.

Foles is under contract for another year.

He will not be a free agent after the game or in March this year.

The Eagles could trade him again.

I hope not.

winnr1 wrote:

Rater of empires wrote:

The Pats are the "real" evil empire.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/12/who_is_the_real_evil_empire_of.html

27>5

When was the last time the Yankees won a World Series, huh? 8 years (2009) and the the time before that was 2000. Meanwhile the Patriots won the Super Bowl: 2017, 2015, 2005, 2004, 2002.

In the "what have you done for me lately" scenario the Yankees haven't been a dynasty and the Pats have been the evil empire for the last 16 years.

Star wrote:

Foles is under contract for another year.

He will not be a free agent after the game or in March this year.

The Eagles could trade him again.

I hope not.

Foles will get a ton of interest from QB needy teams, plus he will get a fat contract. Eagles will get another draft pick, perhaps a 3rd rounder, maybe even a 2nd rounder. Btw, the Eagles do not have a 2nd round pick for the upcoming draft and Howie Roseman is one of the most aggressive GMs for making trade deals.

Another Philly fan wrote:

Be careful what you wish for wrote:

The Pats' backup QB is essentially a Nick Foles clone.

It's not even close. Brian Hoyer, really? Bahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Career numbers: 48 TDs/30 INTs

Nick Foles

Career numbers: 61 TDs/29 INTs

Foles can start for several teams that need a veteran QB and he will be a sought after free agent after the game tomorrow. Meanwhile, Hoyer will always ride the bench for the rest of his career.

Foles is marginally better than Hoyer. Brady is the GOAT and neither one can carry his jock strap.

A Patriots sports writer, Rich Hill, lists 3 reasons why the Patriots will lose.

1. Patriots Offense

Only two teams have been able to force the Patriots offense into a negative day at the office- week 5 against the Buccaneers and week 14 against the Dolphins- and both were games where Rob Gronkowski was not available to play. There next two “worst days” on offense also included a limited Gronkowski- week 1 against the Chiefs in Gronkowski’s first game back from surgery and week 17 against the Jets when they bubble-wrapped him for the playoffs.

Since Gronkowski is playing, the Eagles cannot expect New England to have a “bad day.” But they can limit the Patriots offense to a “simply okay” day and there is one game to emulate: week 8 by the Chargers.

In week 8, the Chargers ferocious pass rushing duo of Melvin Ingram and Joey Bosa hassled Brady on 46% of his dropbacks and regularly disrupted the offense, holding them to 19 points (New England added a safety to get to 21). The offense settled for field goals, including six attempts inside the 25-yard line.

If the Eagles can disrupt Brady on 40% or more of his dropbacks and then tighten up in the red zone, then they’ll have a real chance to win the game. New England will counter the pass rush by throwing quick passes to running backs in the flat- Dion Lewis, Rex Burkhead, and James White combined for 14 catches and 163 yards against the Chargers- but the Eagles rank 9th in allowing receiving yards to running backs.

The combination of the Philadelphia pass rush and their ability to cover the running backs will be key on Sunday.

2. Patriots Defense

Unlike the Patriots offense, which didn’t have a bad day with an active Gronkowski, the New England defense only had three shut-down games all year. Sure, they limited 12 of their past 14 opponents to 20 or fewer points, but a lot of teams have been able to move the ball down the field. They just haven’t been able to convert those drives into points.

The Patriots challenge opposing teams to lead 10+ play drives to get into scoring position because they play the odds and understand that few teams are willing to take and convert the easy play snap after snap, and even if this means they allow a few third down conversions, they’ll still be able to force a punt around midfield.

This is a problem against Doug Pederson because there’s one coach that’s always been willing to take advantage of what New England offers on defense: Andy Reid. Alex Smith and the Chiefs loved dinking and dunking their way down the field and leading long, time-consuming drives to keep the ball away from Tom Brady.

If the last two games mean anything, Nick Foles will be able to complete a lot of passes within the Eagles offense to move the chains. And New England can’t allow Philadelphia to make long drives because the Eagles lead the NFL in red zone scoring rate. This just seems to be the perfect recipe for the Eagles to control the clock and win a low-scoring game.

3. X-Factor

[BThe Eagles rely on the RPO more than any other team in the NFL and the Patriots linebackers have been really bad at defending it. The linebackers are aggressive and they’ll bite on their run keys, which means that Nick Foles will have his pop passes available a lot of the time. There’s no question that Bill Belichick and company will have worked on defending the RPO in practice over the past two weeks, but this play could be the key on Sunday.

If the Patriots linebackers are exploited like they were against the Jacksonville Jaguars, then the Eagles will be able to pick up chunk yards, move the chains, and dictate the pace of the game.

Never heard of Rich Hill. Who does he write for?

Masshole wrote:

Never heard of Rich Hill. Who does he write for?

You're not a real Patriots fan. Hill writes for Pats Pulpit.

Born in the 856 wrote:

Masshole wrote:

Never heard of Rich Hill. Who does he write for?

You're not a real Patriots fan. Hill writes for Pats Pulpit.

https://www.patspulpit.com

Been a Pats fan for decades. Never heard of Pats Pulpit either.

Masshole wrote:

Born in the 856 wrote:

You're not a real Patriots fan. Hill writes for Pats Pulpit.

https://www.patspulpit.com

Been a Pats fan for decades. Never heard of Pats Pulpit either.

And you never heard of sbnation.com either? I find that hard to believe, unless you're just a casual fan. Every NFL team has their own page under the sbnation website. Again, you are not a real fan. The Eagles have bleedinggreennation.com which all Eagles fans read every day.

South Philly wrote:

The Eagles will win 28-20. This will be Brady's last Super Bowl appearance and he will go home devastated!

For all those great Eagles players dead or alive who never won a ring, they will finally get theirs (in spirit):

Brian Dawkins

Mike Quick

Ron Jaworski

Donovan McNabb

Brian Westbrook

Eric Allen

Randall Cunningham

Harold Carmichael

Wilbert Montgomery

Jerome Brown

Bill Bergey

Chuck Bednarik

Bednarik retired a couple of years before the first Super Bowl. However, he did play for two NFL Champions -- 1949 and 1960.

Eagles. TB12 is DOne

moo wrote:

Eagles. TB12 is DOne

You mean MVP TB12? That guy?