OREGON IS MILER PARADISE

And Bill McChesney’s school record 5000 (13:14) from 1982 lives on.

Wow, Stanovsek. That really makes the point that I try to get across to the average track fan regarding scholarships. It doesn't seem to matter how many times that we tell people there are only 12 scholarships for XC and Track combined. When a kid runs 4:10 in HS and decides to attend Oregon just to watch the track meets with a chance in the future of walking on, you know that it is not as easy as people think. I wonder what Hasty is getting. Oregon is so deep in every event. they have national class guys coming out of HS in every event. Hasty not even find a "starting" spot on the track team for a year or two. I am guessing that he gets a 1/4 scholarship to start.

Makes you wonder why thier cross country teams have been so ordinary.

Happy Birthday Jessica Ennis-Hill 32 wrote:

Makes you wonder why thier cross country teams have been so ordinary.

1) Does it? Is 1609m on Mondo so similar to 10K over turf?

2) Consistent annual top-10 finishes are "mediocre"? Tell that to schools like UCLA, USC, Arizona State, Ohio State, et al for hundreds.....

What does their training look like? Similar to old school Oregon training?

Happy Birthday Jessica Ennis-Hill 32 wrote:

Makes you wonder why thier cross country teams have been so ordinary.

My guess is because most of them their seasons go past NCAA champs to USAs, so Coach Powell probably tells them to take a solid break, and then use late summer and XC to build base for track.

Track times and performances get you professional deals. XC performances do not.

ClonedDuck wrote:

Happy Birthday Jessica Ennis-Hill 32 wrote:

Makes you wonder why thier cross country teams have been so ordinary.

My guess is because most of them their seasons go past NCAA champs to USAs, so Coach Powell probably tells them to take a solid break, and then use late summer and XC to build base for track.

Track times and performances get you professional deals. XC performances do not.

They are a track program first. Vin Lananna once said that the PAC-12 abd NCAA Track Championships are their year-round focus. He stated that they certainly aim to win in XC as well, but track is the program's major focus.

That is why a major thrust of their recruiting is centered around milers.

As for XC, they are still extremely competitive. They are a legitimate top ten, even top 5 contender most years. It easn't that long ago they had a three year run with 2 NCAA XC titles and a runner-up.

In 2015 They had:

Ches, Winn, Gregorek, Winn, Haney, Geoghegan, Jenkins, Alexander

Doubt any other program has ever had this much 1500 depth in one year

Their 2015 Roster was insane wrote:

In 2015 They had:

Ches, Winn, Gregorek, Winn, Haney, Geoghegan, Jenkins, Alexander

Doubt any other program has ever had this much 1500 depth in one year

My bad for saying Winn twice but replace him with Prakel

Their 2015 Roster was insane wrote:

Their 2015 Roster was insane wrote:

In 2015 They had:

Ches, Winn, Gregorek, Winn, Haney, Geoghegan, Jenkins, Alexander

Doubt any other program has ever had this much 1500 depth in one year

My bad for saying Winn twice but replace him with Prakel

That was the year they dominated the indoor nats like it NEVER will be again in the distance events.

DMR Alexander, Chambers, Franzmair, Chesererk 1st 10 pts

Mile Cheserek 1st 10 pts

Mile Gregorek 4th 5 pts

Mile Winn 7th 2 pts

3000 Jenkins 1st 10 pts

3000 Cheserek 2nd 8 pts

3000 Geohegan 3rd 6 pts

5000 Jenkins 1st 10 pts

5000 Stinson 3rd 6 pts

5000 Geohegan 7th 2 pts

69 points from distance crew. In a national meet. Total domination.

Not counting the 400 leg on the DMR, there were 8 different mid/ long distance guys involved in the scoring. That's called sick depth.

Wow, incredibly nasty. What did Stanford do in 2000?

1-2 in the mile

1 in DMR

I think they scored a lot in the 3K/5K too.

Maybe not. There were a few years where Vins teams smashed.

Poop Face wrote:

Wow, incredibly nasty. What did Stanford do in 2000?

1-2 in the mile

1 in DMR

I think they scored a lot in the 3K/5K too.

Maybe not. There were a few years where Vins teams smashed.

Tried to look up Stanford's 2000 results indoors but couldn't find them. Vin did have some great distance crews back then. But as good as they were, they didn't dominate like Vin's Ducks of 2015. Just think .... a future 3:34 guy ( Alexander) was relegated to DMR and future studs, Prakel and Haney, ddn't even run for them in that meet.

I agree, but not really with the reasoning. Alexander just wasn’t a stud in college and weren’t Prakel and the other dude Freshman?

How about this for Stanford outdoor in 2000.

1-2 in 1500

4 in 800

1, 4, 6 in 5K

1, 2, 4 in 10K

If i remember correctly it was those points plus one PV scorer and nothing else and they won it all.

Surely the old Arkansas dominant teams had something comparable, building off of core studs...Bruton, Hood, Lincoln...Donovan, Omara, Consiglio...Falcon, Reina, Cooper...?

How did Oregon ever assemble that 2015 team? Maybe we will be asking the same question again this year or next though. Are guys just willing to pay the price to be part of such a strong team? They are so deep across the board that some of these 4 minute guys must only be on 1/4 scholarships. I am not a fan but remain very impressed.

Stanford had some incredible 1500/mile depth in the Vin era... But I’d imagine the McDonnell Arkansas teams take the cake. Anyone care to do a comparison?

Well between the Hoeys and Slagowski, they've STOLEN enough milers from PSU that they certainly should be a "miler's paradise."

they should be wrote:

Well between the Hoeys and Slagowski, they've STOLEN enough milers from PSU that they certainly should be a "miler's paradise."

Not stealing if the runners leave because their school blows at running lol

they should be wrote:

Well between the Hoeys and Slagowski, they've STOLEN enough milers from PSU that they certainly should be a "miler's paradise."

It was EASTERN Oregon that stole Slagowski from Penn State