Obviously people have run sub 4 in the mile, and a select few have run a sub 4 mile in a 3000m/2mile, but has anyone ever split a sub-4 in a race longer than this?
Obviously people have run sub 4 in the mile, and a select few have run a sub 4 mile in a 3000m/2mile, but has anyone ever split a sub-4 in a race longer than this?
Many championship 5Ks have finished with a sub-4 mile, in fact most Olympic 5Ks. If you're specifically asking if the first 1-mile split has ever been sub-4 in a 5K then no, I don't believe that has happened.
I don't know. I think Gebreselassie was close or might have. Komen probably did it in training during a long run.
Sub4 in 5k wrote:
Obviously people have run sub 4 in the mile, and a select few have run a sub 4 mile in a 3000m/2mile, but has anyone ever split a sub-4 in a race longer than this?
Bekele definitely did in the 2008 5,000m final...
Do people realize that a 5k is not 3 miles? Guys routinely run low 4 pace for 5k so when it goes tactical at all, they finish sub 4.
Prefontaine wouldve done it;/
Predictor wrote:
Guys routinely run low 4 pace for 5k so when it goes tactical at all, they finish sub 4.
4 min/mi is 12:24 for a 5km. World record is 12:37. That would be 4:07, 4:07, 3:59.
Guys do the last 1600 at that pace and people call it sub 4 but an actual sub 4 is probably slightly rarer.
winnnnnnnnnnnn wrote:
Many championship 5Ks have finished with a sub-4 mile, in fact most Olympic 5Ks. If you're specifically asking if the first 1-mile split has ever been sub-4 in a 5K then no, I don't believe that has happened.
It has happened on the roads when Sammy Kipketer went sub-4 for the first Mile at the Carlsbad 5000 in 2000 en route to his still standing road WR 13:10 (the hard & painful way).
See:
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/sdut-carlsbad-5000-road-race-record-5k-2016mar31-htmlstory.htmlSub4 in 5k wrote:
Obviously people have run sub 4 in the mile, and a select few have run a sub 4 mile in a 3000m/2mile, but has anyone ever split a sub-4 in a race longer than this?
A former high school XC teammate of mine went out mile one of 5K XC race in about 4:35. I wonder how often does a high school XC runner go out in 4:15 or faster for first mile.
A handful of Olympic 5ks are closed sub 4 over the final 4 laps.
US champs back in 2011(?) was sub 4 I believe. When Ben True was first man out?
This has never happened. Either your teammate was the best kid in the country, possible one of the best ever (this is also assuming that the course was flat and fast), or your friend absolutely died the last 2.1 miles.
Do you mean a sub-4:15 one mile has never happened? Do you think a 4:35 first mile of a 5K XC is impossible? " ... your friend absolutely died the last 2.1 miles. " About 5:20 per mile pace the last roughy 2.12 miles for my friend. I don't call that "dying." High school and college XC races are usually wars of attrition. Guys going out the first 400m somewhere between 57.5 to 62.5 is normal for high school and college XC races.
Even in the slow 2012 Olympic 5k the last 4 laps were 61, 62, 61, 52 so there's a sub 4 there.
I think most of the championship 5ks that finish with a very fast last lap of 54/55 most likely had a sub 4 last mile.
ClonedDuck wrote:
A handful of Olympic 5ks are closed sub 4 over the final 4 laps.
US champs back in 2011(?) was sub 4 I believe. When Ben True was first man out?
That was 2013, but the 2011 champs also finished in a sub-4, as did many other years
Yes.
Journey to Elite wrote:
I don't know. I think Gebreselassie was close or might have. Komen probably did it in training during a long run.
With his hyper response to EPO there's no doubt Geb did it several times.
I am sure the first two finishers did it in this race which had the fastest ever last 800m @ 1:48!
Mmm, the WR for the road 5K is 12:59.9 which Sammy Kipketer amazingly repeated back to back in 1999 - 2000 or 2000 - 2001( in 2000 for sure) but was rounded off to 13:00. No one has ever come within 10 seconds of Kipketer's record.