It’s so freaking expensive, there are crazy liberals and potheads, and crime is sky-high. Don’t forget about the 25% income tax and the crappy healthcare.
So, all California residents of LetsRun, who forced you to move there? And why do you willingly live in one of the worst states?
I’m dumbfounded. Help me learn.
Southern California is where the bulk of Olympians and Professional Sports stars live.
I’m assuming you live in Washington based on your name. I lived there for 6 years before moving to CA (where I have been for the past 10 years) and I would 100% rather live here than there. You can’t possibly think CA is the worst state in the US. Obviously CA is huge and it really depends on what area you live in. I’m in the LA area, and while of course there are some downsides (expensive rent, traffic, etc), the pros definitely outweigh the cons. It’s literally nice here all the time, there are so many different things to do, population is diverse, running scene is great (and lots of different places to run. Did I mention it’s sunny and nice all the time? All the things you mentioned-liberals, potheads, crime may be higher in certain areas than others, but they are definitely not things I notice on a daily basis by any means. I love living here and I’m sure others will agree.
Sometimes, you have to be in the belly of the beast not to get swallowed. Eventually the whale will get sick of you then spit you out. Just enjoy the weather while you can, but don't trust the homeless man with the sign saying he was a WWI veteran and was born in 1981. Meth with will mess with your head. Ask Jerry Brown if the train to nowhere will ever go somewhere. And who will pay for the hobos who can't afford to buy any Bitcoins for a ride.
M.A.G.A.
Washington Born and Raised wrote:
It’s so freaking expensive ...
I’m dumbfounded. Help me learn.
Stop your whining about not making enough money to live a really nice state like California. Now, go live in the poor places in the Deep South, or in a West Virginia coal town ... what you can afford.
I make a ton of money, can afford the real estate and taxes, like being within a few hours of the most beautiful coastline and mountains in the world, Hawaii is an easy weekend trip, weather is great, my healthcare at Stanford and UCSF is world class because world class docs like living here, pot has no discernible effect on anything, and crime is only bad in the bad neighborhoods like everywhere else.
The real question is why don't people live here? Answer: they aren't good enough to compete in the economic engine of America. Every state tries to recreate Silicon Valley every few years and they always fail. California is for winners. Losers slink off to Seattle to talk about how great the coffee is in the rain. Then Seattles losers go to Portland and do the same thing.
ChadBrad wrote:
I make a ton of money, can afford the real estate and taxes, like being within a few hours of the most beautiful coastline and mountains in the world, Hawaii is an easy weekend trip, weather is great, my healthcare at Stanford and UCSF is world class because world class docs like living here, pot has no discernible effect on anything, and crime is only bad in the bad neighborhoods like everywhere else.
The real question is why don't people live here? Answer: they aren't good enough to compete in the economic engine of America. Every state tries to recreate Silicon Valley every few years and they always fail. California is for winners. Losers slink off to Seattle to talk about how great the coffee is in the rain. Then Seattles losers go to Portland and do the same thing.
^This is accurate and 100% correct. I no longer live in California and it is a big state with some pretty $hitty places to live. But, the nice parts of California are really, really nice. Basically paradise as most normal people would define it (typically the only people who deny this are bitter folks or just plain stupid people). We have a beach house there and I enjoy going back to visit. I really don’t understand why so many people hate it—other than jealously or they are simply mouth-breathers who buy into idiotic political belief systems.
Washington Born and Raised wrote:
It’s so freaking expensive, there are crazy liberals and potheads, and crime is sky-high. Don’t forget about the 25% income tax and the crappy healthcare.
So, all California residents of LetsRun, who forced you to move there? And why do you willingly live in one of the worst states?
I’m dumbfounded. Help me learn.
First off, the highest bracket in CA is 13.3%.
I moved the Irvine on the border of Newport Beach for a great job. I never plan to leave!! It’s perfect and the 3rd best slementary school in the nation is a mile away so my daughter will be CEO of a large company one day and buy me stuff. There’s no crime, it’s clean and perfect. In other words, it’s he opposite of what you claim.
ChadBrad wrote:
California is for winners.
California is a drought-plagued, overpopulated dump whose residents are fleeing north by the millions.
Maybe you could convince those "winners" to go the F back where they came from, but I doubt it.
Washington Born and Raised wrote:
It’s so freaking expensive, there are crazy liberals and potheads, and crime is sky-high. Don’t forget about the 25% income tax and the crappy healthcare.
Gotta be a troll but I'm biting.
One can say the weather and landscape are what keeps them. Or one can make the argument that the multitude of different cultures (white, black, Mexican, Vietnamese, Korean, Chinese, Jewish, Armenian, Persian, Filipino, etc) has created a very diverse set of culinary experiences and neighborhoods that are difficult to find outside of Queens, NY. One can say that while yes, CA is expensive, you also get paid a lot more so it essentially evens out in the end, or the world-class entertainment that exists in the state. The hills, the beaches, the natural beauty is incredible.
However, I would say what I like most about CA is that it is very relaxed. There is a calm and an easy way of life that doesn't exist in a lot of major cities (I've lived in 5 major cities in the US including Manhattan for several years.) Certain parts are probably a bit more intense but a lot of the state has this incredibly easy-going vibe to it, yet also has ambitious, hard-working people.
It just 'feels' right here.
California is washed up. The air quality is disgusting and toxic. Lots of fake people and trash.
It does have some good going for it: wine, weather, and women.
Bad Wigins wrote:
ChadBrad wrote:
California is for winners.
California is a drought-plagued, overpopulated dump whose residents are fleeing north by the millions.
Maybe you could convince those "winners" to go the F back where they came from, but I doubt it.
Average person who leaves California made $80k a year. Average person who comes in makes $90k. Exporting losers, importing winners.
Sorry Jabroni.
Colorado > California.
ChadBrad wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
California is a drought-plagued, overpopulated dump whose residents are fleeing north by the millions.
Maybe you could convince those "winners" to go the F back where they came from, but I doubt it.
Average person who leaves California made $80k a year. Average person who comes in makes $90k. Exporting losers, importing winners.
Sorry Jabroni.
$90k in California is not what I’d call a “winning” salary. It’s more of a “barely paying the bills” salary. Sorry.
Moved to Bay Area in 1988 and have not looked back!
...too much beauty and diversity in Ca , far more than WA
ChadBrad wrote:
I make a ton of money, can afford the real estate and taxes, like being within a few hours of the most beautiful coastline and mountains in the world, Hawaii is an easy weekend trip, weather is great, my healthcare at Stanford and UCSF is world class because world class docs like living here, pot has no discernible effect on anything, and crime is only bad in the bad neighborhoods like everywhere else.
The real question is why don't people live here? Answer: they aren't good enough to compete in the economic engine of America. Every state tries to recreate Silicon Valley every few years and they always fail. California is for winners. Losers slink off to Seattle to talk about how great the coffee is in the rain. Then Seattles losers go to Portland and do the same thing.
yeah, not really the case. Some people just like different things. I lived in LA for years and had a great job but gladly left California for the NW first chance I got and haven't once thought about returning, even for a visit. Had several job offers to return to LA but would only consider it as an emergency option. Yeah I'll take a road trip down there someday and Northern California definitely has some areas worth visiting, but the southern half of the state has almost no appeal to me. There's also just something about the general LA attitude that I can't stand, and if you are living in LA, all the nice areas in the state are farther away than they look on the map due to traffic.
And for what it's worth, I much prefer the Oregon coast to the Southern California coast. I never made it to Yosemite, but here's part of the reason why:
"Each year, Yosemite National Park welcomes over five million visitors. If you’re visiting Yosemite in the summer, particularly Yosemite Valley, expect extremely high visitor concentrations, resulting in extended traffic delays, extremely limited parking, busy trails, and no lodging or campground availability. Expect delays of an hour or more at entrance stations and two to three hours in Yosemite Valley. "
yeah, no thanks. Enough of life in LA is already built around traffic schedules, I couldn't stand to have my outdoor recreation dictated by the traffic seasons as well.
If you make 90k, but choose to live in the festering concrete armpit of civilization, rather than someplace nice, you are not a winner but a fool.
Bad Wigins wrote:
If you make 90k, but choose to live in the festering concrete armpit of civilization, rather than someplace nice, you are not a winner but a fool.
It's the trend bud. Poor people with declining prospects leave, smart people with ambition and potential arrive. There's a reason it's so expensive. The market talks.
Enjoy the rain, excuse me, the mist.
Sold a condo in 2017 that I bought in 2013 for a $500k gain, bought again for the 2013 price plus $100k. Winner winner chicken dinner.
Bad Wigins wrote:
If you make 90k, but choose to live in the festering concrete armpit of civilization, rather than someplace nice, you are not a winner but a fool.
The armpit of civilization is Russia, everyone agrees. Russians are disgusting subhumans with no honor or moral compass. California, on the other hand, is a paradise—even if it’s full of textbook leftists.