Emma Coburn runs fastest miler ever in Colorado - 4:38.08 at 7,771 feet no less! (race video now included)

Still can't keep up with Katelyn Tuohy.

joedirt wrote:

You don't think that the year Jenny won the world championship in the 1500 when she was living and training in Colorado Springs, probably running a lot of workouts with the cadets at the academy (which is at 7800') that she never ran faster than 4:38. I guess your right though, the Academy track is closer to 268m. She has run sub 4 for the 1500, I am sure she has probably run workouts in under 4:38 (or the equivalent over 1500m).

not unless you think Jenny trained for the 1500 by just time trialing 1mi every day as fast as she could.

If the 4:38 this weekend converts to 4:25 or so and Jenny's 3:57 converts to 4:15 (using 1.08*3:57.22) that would mean a ten second difference. Seems like it would be pretty hard to come within ten seconds of your 1mi PR in practice, unless it was a time trial which shouldn't really count as "training". If a time trial counts as training then you should count Emma's 4:38 as training because it was basically a time trial, paced 700m.

numbers numbers wrote:

Not sure where you're getting your numbers or if these are out of date but according to NCAA conversion from 2009 (pops up first on searches) the conversion is 4.5%, which is more like 11.7 seconds. Equivalence of 4:26.4. And not that's consistent with Coburn's sea level PBs outdoor, indoor, and roads (4:05 1500), 4:29 (mile), and 4:23 respectively.

4:05 is equal to 4:24, so 4:26 is absolutely consistent with those PRs.

And yes, she is still faster than Tuohy, at least over 3000m (8:48 v. 9:05, plus 9:02 over barriers). Emma has never competed 5000.

I would love to someday do a race at high altitude. Would be fun to see the difference of what it's like. Although didn't she run indoors so the altitude would be neglected because of indoor vs outdoor pressure. I've never done an indoor race(at altitude or not). Not sure if I'd find it easier or harder. Must give it a go soon. My pb is 4:40 so I hope to literally beat her 4:38 sometime soon.

Banana Bread wrote:

didn't she run indoors so the altitude would be neglected because of indoor vs outdoor pressure.

Try it and see!

Great result, but I haven't heard anything about her post-race outfit. Was it professional enough? Was she being a poor role model and showing too much leg? Small, bitter people have a right to know!!!

Great Video. Both ladies are heading to the Millrose Games to run a 3K.

Banana Bread wrote:

I would love to someday do a race at high altitude. Would be fun to see the difference of what it's like. Although didn't she run indoors so the altitude would be neglected because of indoor vs outdoor pressure. I've never done an indoor race(at altitude or not). Not sure if I'd find it easier or harder. Must give it a go soon. My pb is 4:40 so I hope to literally beat her 4:38 sometime soon.

You say that until you feel your lungs on fire like someone fired a flamethrower down your throat.

TrackCoach wrote:

Pappy wrote:

Aisha is probably the coolest pro runner I've met. I'm not surprised she was interacting with the fans. She's always been an inspiration for my kids.

Not an APL fan; last year the IAAF convened a special council to deal with athletes like her.

what are you talking about?! "deal with athletes like her"

she's such a nice person, great athlete

Did she barf for 30 mins after !

Yuk, sounds very painful!

I though it was pretty cool that she said a few days before she was targeting 438 and he hit it on the nose. Those two ladies seem to do everything together. They even went to the DMV together today..

TrackCoach wrote:

Pappy wrote:

Aisha is probably the coolest pro runner I've met. I'm not surprised she was interacting with the fans. She's always been an inspiration for my kids.

Not an APL fan; last year the IAAF convened a special council to deal with athletes like her.

Are you talking about her running for Jamaica? If so, I can see that. Her father was Jamaican so I do believe it is allowed and a good deal different than the countries that hire E. Africans to run for them. Besides that I'm not sure what is to dislike. The girl is a class act.

The camera work was awful, the sound was total crap, there was no sound from the race at all.

That was one of the worst videos that I've ever seen.

Congratulations to the ladies for a very fine race. They deserved to have much better coverage.

I am Emma’s Dad and spend a ton of time with Aisha, who is one of the most amazing, sweet, giving, thoughtful, hard working athletes I know. So any of you people who post anything negative about her should be shamed.

Banana Bread wrote:

I would love to someday do a race at high altitude. Would be fun to see the difference of what it's like. Although didn't she run indoors so the altitude would be neglected because of indoor vs outdoor pressure. I've never done an indoor race(at altitude or not). Not sure if I'd find it easier or harder. Must give it a go soon. My pb is 4:40 so I hope to literally beat her 4:38 sometime soon.

Most buildings are not pressurized to that extent (and there are probably enough open doors to eliminate any kind of pressurization on a space with that kind of volume). If you have never run an indoor race at high altitude, then you should count yourself lucky. Not only do you have to battle altitude, but since you are in a serious heating climate (average January temperature in Gunny is like 20 degrees), the RH of the indoor air once it is heated to 65-70 degrees is typically less than 10%, so as others have pointed out, your lungs feel like they are on fire. From experience, WSU, ASC, and Air Force's tracks are all murder on your lungs. Trust me, if you are running 4:40 at low altitude, you would have a hard time breaking 5:00 at WSC.

Pappy wrote:

TrackCoach wrote:

Not an APL fan; last year the IAAF convened a special council to deal with athletes like her.

Are you talking about her running for Jamaica? If so, I can see that. Her father was Jamaican so I do believe it is allowed and a good deal different than the countries that hire E. Africans to run for them. Besides that I'm not sure what is to dislike. The girl is a class act.

Because you are allowed to do something does not make it right. And, I have no doubt she is a nice girl and class act, etc., but good people do bad things. Nationality and citizenship have a special meaning to people like me and many others. - That's all I am saying.

TrackCoach wrote:

Pappy wrote:

Are you talking about her running for Jamaica? If so, I can see that. Her father was Jamaican so I do believe it is allowed and a good deal different than the countries that hire E. Africans to run for them. Besides that I'm not sure what is to dislike. The girl is a class act.

Because you are allowed to do something does not make it right. And, I have no doubt she is a nice girl and class act, etc., but good people do bad things. Nationality and citizenship have a special meaning to people like me and many others. - That's all I am saying.

It is so very special that you were born on a particular patch of land. Good job

Billy Coburn Emma’s Dad and Aisha Fan wrote:

I am Emma’s Dad and spend a ton of time with Aisha, who is one of the most amazing, sweet, giving, thoughtful, hard working athletes I know. So any of you people who post anything negative about her should be shamed.

Billy, please quit f*cking up Boulder. Thanks.

Nucla wrote:

TrackCoach wrote:

Because you are allowed to do something does not make it right. And, I have no doubt she is a nice girl and class act, etc., but good people do bad things. Nationality and citizenship have a special meaning to people like me and many others. - That's all I am saying.

It is so very special that you were born on a particular patch of land. Good job

APL gets to compete for Jamaica because her dad's d*ck was born on that particular patch of land. Is that so special? There is absolutely nothing Jamaican about APL, she's never lived there, doesn't care about that nation and does nothing for it. Vacationing at a beach resort there and flipping tips to the native bellboys, doormen, maids, and valets doesn't count. Why the hell would she want to represent Jamaica in competition except for purely selfish reasons? Ask any track coach in Jamaica who APL is and you'll get blank stares in return. C'mon, Stacey Dash and Rachel Dolezal are equally Jamaican. People like APL and Alexi Pappas are American jayvee scabs who scramble through loopholes to become Olympic tourists. No, not "a good deal different" from the E. African mercenaries who are at least chasing a paycheck for their families back home. It's cheap and it's weak, exploiting a loophole that exists to allow athletes to flee tyranny without giving up their careers as athletes. Leave the country if you want to represent some other country so badly, go live and train there.