How to improve Sage Canaday marathon time.

Sigmund Freud wrote:

1. Stop doing ultras .

2. Start doing heavy weight training, low reps. Squats,Deadlift etc 5 x 5.

3. Move to Iten, Kenya and start training with some Kenyans.

4. Focus on the 5k/10k for the next year or two.

He just have to contact a great coach. I suggest coachJS. Yes I know , you are many against him.

But if you want one of the best, its a good choice. I have been coached just two months by him, and the improvement

is very interesting. I now run faster than ever on my training runs. Im a hobbyjogger in my upper middle age.

I think that’s the trade off.

You lose weight to game some speed, even if it’s a few seconds per mile. And Sage was seconds behind the trials qualifier.

Would you be willing to sacrifice your looks to get faster by a marginal amount?

That’s something even I’m worried about, and I don’t got much up top.

Sage has a really, really nice bum and defined upper body tho...

Sigmund Freud wrote:

1. Stop doing ultras .

2. Start doing heavy weight training, low reps. Squats,Deadlift etc 5 x 5.

3. Move to Iten, Kenya and start training with some Kenyans.

4. Focus on the 5k/10k for the next year or two.

None of that stuff would improve his marathon time, except to stop doing ultras which take time away from marathon training on the roads. But clearly he prefers running ultras even if it means sacrificing a couple minutes on his marathon.

Some Things wrote:

He is much better at trails and hills. Not all 2:16-20 type runners can put down the performances he has both on hills and over 50 miles on trails. His Mount Washington performances and his North Face 50 wins are both amazing performances.

However, I think its super inspiring that the OTQ drives him and he keeps going for it, for no reason but personal satisfaction. And his marathon training will help him going forward with the trail races. Good for him!

This

I think he should keep at 50-100k's but if he wants to get an OTQ for "fun," more power to him

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM wrote:

Agreed with this - he should run what Joe Grey/quote]

Who is Joe Grey? I have heard of Joe Gray and Jon Grey. Is that like a relay team when they split a race?

Telling not spelling bro.....

Sace Ganaday...... wrote:

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM wrote:

Agreed with this - he should run what Joe Grey/quote]

Who is Joe Grey? I have heard of Joe Gray and Jon Grey. Is that like a relay team when they split a race?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM wrote:

Agreed with this - he should run what Joe Grey runs and create a good rivalry they both can play off and turn into a marketing event.

Let us be realistic wrote:

The far better idea would be for Sage to give up the marathon. He should focus where has the competitive advantage: 50k-100k trail ultras and other types of mountainous runs, like Mt. Washington.

+1

Only problem is Joe Gray would kick Sage's butt very often without an agreement.

Just run 2:19:49, and boom, you've improved his last marathon time.

Just run 1 second faster than he did.

Yeah I saw he and sage raced a few times this year and not once was it close. Sage should stick to ultra imo. Sub ultra world will have him getting spanked left and right and that's bad for business hoka.

2:19 is not a bad time at all, that's still incredibly fast. I'm a novice in marathon training and have followed some of this athletes training videos and think it's awesome someone like him takes the time to help out other runners. I can't help but notice that he tries really hard/works really hard and it seems like he's always working in running or around it all the time. Just assuming though as I don't know him personally. Is it beneficial to maybe take a break like a true break...is it different in this aspect with elites....do they can they just take a break....would they lose that much fitness in the marathon?

Are you guys suggesting this person needs to lose weight?

https://www.runnersworld.com/sites/runnersworld.com/files/Canaday_Main.jpg

^^ yes - What a great goal to have. Have the chance to once again run the oly trials while improving speed for the more runnable ultras. Its a total win-win for him and his sponsor. All the tunnel vision roadies on this site seem to struggle to understand that. Just running in the trials is an honor, and one I (and the VAST majority of runners) will never experience. If you're that close, do it!

Kinda like when Even Jager jumped in a 5k or two, last year. He just went for it and tried to knock out a good time and get competitive. It was only going to help him in his focus event (Steeple) and was a fun way to mix things up.

^^ yes to the following quote.. not to needing to lose weight

Glorfindel wrote:

Some Things wrote:

He is much better at trails and hills. Not all 2:16-20 type runners can put down the performances he has both on hills and over 50 miles on trails. His Mount Washington performances and his North Face 50 wins are both amazing performances.

However, I think its super inspiring that the OTQ drives him and he keeps going for it, for no reason but personal satisfaction. And his marathon training will help him going forward with the trail races. Good for him!

This

I think he should keep at 50-100k's but if he wants to get an OTQ for "fun," more power to him

Never saw him before wrote:

Are you guys suggesting this person needs to lose weight?

https://www.runnersworld.com/sites/runnersworld.com/files/Canaday_Main.jpg

I don't he has to lose weight. He is about the same size as Robert De Castella . who ran a 2:07:51 marathon.

Sigmund Freud wrote:

1. Stop doing ultras .

2. Start doing heavy weight training, low reps. Squats,Deadlift etc 5 x 5.

3. Move to Iten, Kenya and start training with some Kenyans.

4. Focus on the 5k/10k for the next year or two.

None of the above. The issue with Sage is he appears to lack focus and is too busy building his social media empire. That and having a relationship. If he really was committed to lowering his marathon PR he would disappear for awhile and possibly even take a hiatus from his old lady. You mention Kenyans.....you don't have to move to Kenya to train like one. He could rent a studio apartment somewhere (not even in Boulder....maybe back in Oregon where he will be distracted less) and just run. Have a job working at the local library or something not connected to running at all.

He can keep doing ultras but use them as long training runs a la Yuki Kawauchi.

Coach Sandy? The dude is a beta male.

Sigmund Freud wrote:

1. Stop doing ultras .

2. Start doing heavy weight training, low reps. Squats,Deadlift etc 5 x 5.

3. Move to Iten, Kenya and start training with some Kenyans.

4. Focus on the 5k/10k for the next year or two.

Take EPO. I am by no means encouraging the use of PEDs but, it is a fact that EPO would boost his times.

FactsOnly wrote:

Sigmund Freud wrote:

1. Stop doing ultras .

2. Start doing heavy weight training, low reps. Squats,Deadlift etc 5 x 5.

3. Move to Iten, Kenya and start training with some Kenyans.

4. Focus on the 5k/10k for the next year or two.

Take EPO. I am by no means encouraging the use of PEDs but, it is a fact that EPO would boost his times.

He doesn't need too. Just some red meet. Perhaps his coach girlfriend went vegan nazi on him. He used to eat eggs/dairy. But some of the books Sandi reads and preaches, promote extreme orthorexia

This forum is full of idiots.

Sage, just keep on doing what you're doing, because you're doing great, and you're an inspiration to those of us who are sane.