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Aragon wrote:

I've always found it weird that some folks simultaneously think that the fact that people take these "huge risks" with rEPO/autotransfusions proves that blood doping is a supereffective doping method and still maintain that the testing system sucks (microdosing, corruption, insensitivity of the ABP-program) and catches nobody. Here is how you yourself described the testing system not-too-long time ago:

Cool story about "some folks" that you find weird. But, why do you respond to me in that context? You should have noticed that I neither mentioned

"huge risks"

nor

"supereffective doping"

nor pretended that

"the system ... catches nobody".

Just go back to complaining about the mean "anti-Armstrong journalists" that wanted to see your idol fall.

casual obsever wrote:

Aragon wrote:

I've always found it weird that some folks simultaneously think that the fact that people take these "huge risks" with rEPO/autotransfusions proves that blood doping is a supereffective doping method and still maintain that the testing system sucks (microdosing, corruption, insensitivity of the ABP-program) and catches nobody. Here is how you yourself described the testing system not-too-long time ago:

Cool story about "some folks" that you find weird. But, why do you respond to me in that context? You should have noticed that I neither mentioned

"huge risks"

nor

"supereffective doping"

nor pretended that

"the system ... catches nobody".

Just go back to complaining about the mean "anti-Armstrong journalists" that wanted to see your idol fall.

That Oprah, she's is just mean (the M.A.G.A guy will turn up here soon, sorry).

casual obsever wrote:

Cool story about "some folks" that you find weird. But, why do you respond to me in that context?

Perhaps I might've added that my notion wasn't directed specifically against you, even when I quoted your statements (based on your borderline hysterical reaction, even you seem to have noticed at least some weaknesses in holding simultaneously the two positions)

casual obsever wrote:

Just go back to complaining about the mean "anti-Armstrong journalists" that wanted to see your idol fall.

If I were you, I wouldn't direct traffic to the thread where I used that sentence "anti-Armstrong journalists" nor to any other posts where you discuss Armstrong, because your knowledge even about the basic facts of the Armstrong-saga have been next to none. Most likely I even used the clumsy term to emphasize that the journalists I referred to weren't pro-Armstrong in any way, because based on some of your posts I found it borderline miracle if you knew anything about the positions of Juliet Macur or David Walsh and how their careers were connected to Armstrong.

"hysterical"? You are cute. But that's not my style.

And, "the" thread where you used "anti-Armstrong"? You just complained about that again last week... Can't you get over your hero having been caught? Or did you really think for a while that he might have been clean?

casual obsever wrote:

Can't you get over your hero having been caught? Or did you really think for a while that he might have been clean?

Let's just leave it there, because there are some 50 Armstrong-related threads.

I don't know whether I ever thought Lance Armstrong to have been "clean" nor had I never an opportunity to consider him a "hero", because until the 2012 USADA decision, I barely knew who he was. I don't know either whether I have ever held the position that his wins should be reinstated, the guy is obviously still lying (lied to Oprah that the 2001 meeting with Martial Saugy didn't take place) and should serve time if the worst stories about him turn out to be true (bribing people to claim that Greg LeMond used rEPO, contaminating the blood bags of Floyd Landis in 2005).

But if your definition of "a Lance fanboy" is anyone who questions the motives/reliability of any of his opponents in any possibly, I'd fit into that category. Perhaps one day I will encounter the burning bush and become a born-again anti-doping crusader taking Tyler Hamilton's The Secret Race as an equivalent of the holy bible and supporting Travis Tygart for the first vacancy in the Trinity.