At this moment, Shalane Flanagan would only beat Katelyn Tuohy by 10 seconds in a 3000

red cross is the devil wrote:

It is not without precedent (Gerry Lindgren, among others) that a high school kid beats an adult they aren't supposed to. Physics doesn't care what your name is or how old you are. It only cares about your power:weight ratio. Well, of course that isn't completely true, but hopefully you get my point. Odds of Tuohy being able to run away from Flanagan at 3K? I'd say 1:7. I'd put my money on Flanagan, of course, but Tuohy hasn't been pushed in a long while and she's a fierce competitor so who knows.

If someone can solo a 9:05 while going around lapped runners and not having the adrenaline that is normally present when you aren't sure if you can win or not, I'd say Tuohy is in 8:50 shape or faster.

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I actually do not think you can call her a "fierce competitor" yet. She hasn't had anyone to compete with, so yea, you get "full of confidence" when you continually run away from the field.

What happens when all of a sudden she "puts her move in" and all of a sudden there is still a pack with her? Then we will see what sort of competitor she is.

The best example I can think of is Lukas V who was undefeated for life at XC, went to Oregon and tried to run away in his first XC race, got handled by a pack, then another bad race, and all of a sudden he doesn't want to run anymore.

Oh Please wrote:

I actually do not think you can call her a "fierce competitor" yet. She hasn't had anyone to compete with, so yea, you get "full of confidence" when you continually run away from the field.

What happens when all of a sudden she "puts her move in" and all of a sudden there is still a pack with her? Then we will see what sort of competitor she is.

The best example I can think of is Lukas V who was undefeated for life at XC, went to Oregon and tried to run away in his first XC race, got handled by a pack, then another bad race, and all of a sudden he doesn't want to run anymore.

You are aware that this is the first year that she's been on a different level from her cometition right?

PortlandXCgirl wrote:

douglas burke wrote:

The real question should be will Tuohy be better than Flanagan ever has been?

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well done

She has always been a tough competitor:

http://www.nbnationalsout.com/eprofile.php?event_id=3689&do=videos&video_id=181014-Girls-Distance-Medley-Relay-Championship-Section-1-New-Balance-Nationals-Outdoor-2016

PortlandXCgirl wrote:

PrZ wrote:

Plus Shalane ran sub 15 for the 5k this past summer at 36.

What does that indicate for Tuohy’s upcoming 5k record assault?

Absolutely nothing about Tuohy’s upcoming 5k. Incredibly irrelevant question.... What it indicates is Flanagan could have run faster than 8:55.

Just chill out. She is not Mary Cain, Mary Decker, or Shalane. Simply put she's a high school Sophomore girl training at a College D1 level and may not have hit puberty yet. Let's hope she's as good as a Mary Decker but I don't like the odds.

Fact: Tuohy and Flanagan were both at NXN

Fact: Flanagan didn’t have the ovaries to toe the line at NXN

Fact: Tuohy saw the fear in Flanagan’s eyes just like Gabe Jennings saw it in El G’s

Fact: These are all facts

red cross is the devil wrote:

if you think Tuohy wouldn't have run faster than 9:05 in this race you definitely donated way too much blood recently. there is a real possibility that Tuohy would have beaten Flanagan.

So, Tuohy would have gone faster in a race in which she was pushed, but Shalane wouldn't have.

Since we're on a medical motif with the donating blood thing, please please please get a vasectomy or tubal ligation by the end of the next business day or at least promise not to breed (or breed further, as the sad case may be).

Flanagan has a PR of 8:33 for 3K.

Tuohy is running incredibly right now.

No need to compare the two right now. Troll somewhere else

PortlandXCgirl wrote:

PrZ wrote:

Plus Shalane ran sub 15 for the 5k this past summer at 36.

What does that indicate for Tuohy’s upcoming 5k record assault?

Well 9:05 for 3k is about 15:09 pace for 5k, so look for a time of 15:30-15:40

Impressive performance by Shalane. Even more impressive is how little she would slow down as the distance increases. The shorter the distance, the closer younger competitors will be. There are few who can match Shalanes’s range. Probably only Molly.

I hope potential NCAA champions can beat Shalane over 3k.

Flanagan won her race by 2 seconds. Tuohy won by 1:33. It would appear Flanagan was pushed a little more than Tuohy. I’m a distance runner. There is no threat to me reproducing, so don’t worry about that too much.

97% of LRC posters are imbeciles wrote:

red cross is the devil wrote:

if you think Tuohy wouldn't have run faster than 9:05 in this race you definitely donated way too much blood recently. there is a real possibility that Tuohy would have beaten Flanagan.

So, Tuohy would have gone faster in a race in which she was pushed, but Shalane wouldn't have.

Since we're on a medical motif with the donating blood thing, please please please get a vasectomy or tubal ligation by the end of the next business day or at least promise not to breed (or breed further, as the sad case may be).

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