Sara Hall goes political

Go suck Donald's D wrote:

She is right, it's unethical to call any country who isn't (economically speaking) up to technological standards a sh!thole. Good for her, OP is a little trump fan boy.

The thing is even if Trump said the shithole comment it was done in a private setting and not in an official speech. I'm assuming if everything you said was relayed to the masses you'd be squeaky clean right, because you never make inappropriate statements in private.

Unbiased Poster wrote:

Go suck Donald's D wrote:

She is right, it's unethical to call any country who isn't (economically speaking) up to technological standards a sh!thole. Good for her, OP is a little trump fan boy.

The thing is even if Trump said the shithole comment it was done in a private setting and not in an official speech. I'm assuming if everything you said was relayed to the masses you'd be squeaky clean right, because you never make inappropriate statements in private.

The poster isn’t the president or the de facto leader of the free world. Huge difference

bruteforce75757575 wrote:

Neither one of them made abortion legal or performed them personally. Trump exposed his racist views and gave it a big voice and also exposed a huge part of his base as a bunch of bigots. Them supporting him blindly didn't help matters any. Obama wasn't hated by the rest of the world either, Trump is.

Being president isn't a popularity contest about being liked. It's about looking out for the best interests of its citizens. Do you think limited the amount of unproductive immigrants who are a burden on society isn't in the best interests of the US citizens. Or I guess you prefer giving cash to a country like Iran that sponsors terrorism. Hey but Iran must really like Obama which means he's great, right?

Unbiased Poster wrote:

The thing is even if Trump said the shithole comment it was done in a private setting and not in an official speech. I'm assuming if everything you said was relayed to the masses you'd be squeaky clean right, because you never make inappropriate statements in private.

A. Incorrect. An official policy meeting in the White House with a dozen Congress people is not a private setting, SFB.

B. Correct. Normal adult human beings with a little morality and fully developed brains do not think this way, so they don’t worry about open microphones.

My news are as real as the Bowling Green Massacre.

Obviously Trump said and meant it it:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/368967-conservative-writer-trump-called-friends-to-brag-about-s-hole

Trump is a disgrace and he is bending over nightly for Vlad to whom he is selling out America. You slap dicks don't even realize how much money (trillions!) we are giving away by letting China run away with clean energy.

The Clintons did not steal from Haiti, anyone with a lick of common sense knows this. You're just outing yourself as someone with an IQ of below 75. Obama was a brilliant scholar (Editor-in-Chief of the Harvard MF Law Review) and a terrific president who was hamstrung by racist obstructionists in Congress from the get-go.

He still pulled America out of a recession, increased the GOP, got some form of healthcare in the hands of tens of millions, killed Bin Laden among many other glorious accomplishments.

The Republicans have not done anything worthwhile for America in decades. You're useless, racist Nazi azzholes.

Unbiased Poster wrote:[/b}

Being president isn't a popularity contest about being liked. It's about looking out for the best interests of its WHITE citizens. Do you think limited the amount of unproductive immigrants who are a burden on society isn't in the best interests of the US citizens. Or I guess you prefer giving cash to a country like Iran that sponsors terrorism. Hey but Iran must really like Obama which means he's great, right?

You Trumpsters must be huffing chemicals on the regular. Never seen such brainwashed morons in my life.

If we look at the facts- quality of life etc- America is largely a "sh*thole" when compared to Europe. We all in Europe realise this but would never boast about it - we're better than that. In fact we try to help you Americans with your racism issues, gun control issues, lack of universal healthcare etc. Part of that is because we feel responsible- we seeded that country. Looks like we planted the wrong seeds but we want to help

Tom gad wrote:

If we look at the facts- quality of life etc- America is largely a "sh*thole" when compared to Europe. We all in Europe realise this but would never boast about it - we're better than that. In fact we try to help you Americans with your racism issues, gun control issues, lack of universal healthcare etc. Part of that is because we feel responsible- we seeded that country. Looks like we planted the wrong seeds but we want to help

Europe didn't have a public sewage infrastructure until after World War II when the US Army Corps of Engineers built sewage pipes and waste treatment facilities at US military bases all over Europe.

bruteforce75757575 wrote:

Neither one of them made abortion legal or performed them personally. Trump exposed his racist views and gave it a big voice and also exposed a huge part of his base as a bunch of bigots. Them supporting him blindly didn't help matters any. Obama wasn't hated by the rest of the world either, Trump is.

Barack Obama voted three or four times against the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act. Not even NARAL (the National Abortion Rights Action League) opposed it. But then Senator Obama acted to give abortionists another chance at killing even though just about everybody else considers the act of killing a born human being murder.

Later he went to great extremes again to force US taxpayers and even the Little Sisters of the Poor to subsidize insurance coverage for artificial contraception (interventions usually poisoning healthy physiology or monkeywrenching healthy anatomy) and direct abortion - never minding freedom of religion or conscience, or that old lie of the advocates of abortion that they were about freedom of choice. Much of the world has gone from "Thou shall not kill innocent human life" to "Thou shall kill innocent human life."

Here's something I found on the web about the insurance:

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The injustice of this mandate and its application is obvious.

One third of Americans have insurance plans that are exempt from the HHS mandate, yet the Little Sisters' plan is not exempt. These exemptions include large corporations, such as Exxon, Chevron, Visa, and Pepsico, as well as large cities, such as NYC, and the US military, which is the largest insurance provider in the United States. These are just some of the plans which are exempt; there are more. It is interesting that no one is criticizing these companies, cities, etc. for their exemptions...

Surely if the government can find a way to provide these drugs and procedures to 100 million Americans, without the help of these companies, cities, or even the US military, they can find a way to do so without a small group of nuns with well-known, longstanding religious beliefs who care for the aged poor.

For those who do know the concrete details of the case, particularly why the Little Sisters cannot "just sign a paper", here are some accurate, clear, and infomative resources:

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Excuse me, but It is overwhelmingly the Democrat party that champions race- and sex-based "Affirmative Action" policies that discriminate on the basis of race and sex regarding hiring, contracting and admissions policies. Strangely, women in the USA are outperforming men by some measures (more academic degrees, fewer incarcerated, greater life-expectancy), so why are they given an advantage? I think these policies have hurt black Americans especially as they shift the focus from the true pathologies (poor mores, broken or never-formed families, unemployment, bad primary and secondary schools, government disincentives to conceive in-wedlock, work or pay for food, etc.) and merely try to bandage the symptoms by offering lowered admission, hiring or contract-selection standards.

Black people don't need help in achieving success in most sports, the arts or entertainment and they shouldn't need it for succeeding in other aspects of life.

In the US, one problem with so-called "Liberals" is that they refuse to be race-blind. Hence so-called "Affirmative Action" programs that require decisions regarding hiring, contracting and admissions based on race (and sex).

Further, it is often wealthier white liberals subjecting poorer whites to such decisions. Asians complain that they get the shaft regarding school admissions. Women, who by several measures outperform men in the US, are given an upper hand. Why?

And instead of helping minorities, so-called "Affirmative Action" obscures the true pathologies: kids raised without a father, bad schools, less emphasis on education than say in immigrant-Asian families.

How anyone purports to reconcile this with traditional icons of blind justice or the scales of justice is jaw dropping.

Her post must have really triggered a lot of the LRC racist snowflakes. This thread is gold!

Europe is a filthy homeless camp wrote:

Tom gad wrote:

If we look at the facts- quality of life etc- America is largely a "sh*thole" when compared to Europe. We all in Europe realise this but would never boast about it - we're better than that. In fact we try to help you Americans with your racism issues, gun control issues, lack of universal healthcare etc. Part of that is because we feel responsible- we seeded that country. Looks like we planted the wrong seeds but we want to help

Europe didn't have a public sewage infrastructure until after World War II when the US Army Corps of Engineers built sewage pipes and waste treatment facilities at US military bases all over Europe.

Yes-- it is amazing how far the one time leader of the free world has fallen.

Even Trump recognizes that Norwegians don't want to move to the US.

Europe is a filthy homeless camp wrote:

Tom gad wrote:

If we look at the facts- quality of life etc- America is largely a "sh*thole" when compared to Europe. We all in Europe realise this but would never boast about it - we're better than that. In fact we try to help you Americans with your racism issues, gun control issues, lack of universal healthcare etc. Part of that is because we feel responsible- we seeded that country. Looks like we planted the wrong seeds but we want to help

Europe didn't have a public sewage infrastructure until after World War II when the US Army Corps of Engineers built sewage pipes and waste treatment facilities at US military bases all over Europe.

So your argument is to point to 60+ years ago.

Oh, bringing up a disproved point about Obama again. I suppose Bill and Hillary are next.

You do not have an argument for Trump. Sometimes people accidentally get pregnant, some even get raped. Until a certain point in fetal development, a WOMAN has the right to choose whether they can keep the baby or not. This is not an easy or casual decision, and there are a lot of hurdles in place to have an abortion.

And if you disreputable dicks care so much about life, don't prattle on about abortion, go do something tangible for the kids who need access to education or help homeless veterans who need shelter. You haven't helped a person in need a day in your life. Conservatives just judge, judge, judge but are not the doers.

Also, you right-wingers are racist. Kudos to Sara Hall for calling it out and to hell with the few extremist dill weeds shitting up the message board with their spins and lies.

The denials using these phrases come from both conservatives and white liberals who think people of color are stuck in cycles of unstable families and criminal cultures, and that the deprivations of poverty and discrimination spin out bad people.

Mr. Trump opened his candidacy with racism, calling Mexicans criminals and rapists. Since taking office, he has looked away from the disaster zone in Puerto Rico, he has called some violent white supremacists “very fine people,” and he has described Nigerians as living in “huts.”

When someone identifies the obvious, Mr. Trump resounds the beat of denial as he did before he was president: “I’m the least racist person that you’ve ever met,” that “you’ve ever seen,” that “you’ve ever encountered.”

These are ugly denials. But it’s the denials from those who stand in strong opposition to this president that are more frustrating to me: denials that their attacks on identity politics are racist. Denials that the paltry number of people of color in elite spaces marks racism.

Those denials echo the same ones that frustrated Dr. King in 1963 as he sat in a Birmingham jail cell and wrote, “Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will.”

Mr. Trump, I suspect, will go to his grave with his heart beating in denial of the ill will of racism. Many others will as well.

Because we naturally want to look away from our ugliness. We paint over racist reality to make a beautiful delusion of self, of society. We defend this beautiful self and society from our racist reality with the weapons of denial.

Denial is fueled by the stigma associated with being a racist. Feeding the stigma is how “racist” is considered almost like an identity, a brand.

But a racist is not who a person is. A racist is what a person is, what a person is saying, what a person is doing.

Racist is not a fixed category like “not racist,” which is steeped denial. Only racists say they are not racist. Only the racist lives by the heartbeat of denial.

The antiracist lives by the opposite heartbeat, one that rarely and irregularly sounds in America — the heartbeat of confession.

Why couldn’t they adopt American babies/kids? Plenty of them out there.

Does mommy and daddy still pay their bills?

HonestQuestions wrote:

Why couldn’t they adopt American babies/kids? Plenty of them out there.

Does mommy and daddy still pay their bills?

I think we all already know the answer....Genetics!!