Craig Engels pro debut - 3k at UW indoor

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6 years ago 01/11/2018 10:54pm EST

Predictions? Thoughts?

I am gonna predict 7:38 with the winZ

Editor's note: The race is over.

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1 587 Engels, Craig Nike Oregon Project 7:55.66

2 771 Farnham-Rose, Robb Unattached 7:57.02

3 505 Parsons, George Adidas/Tinman Elite 7:59.11

4 777 O'Neil, Austin Unattached 8:02.71

5 525 Jordan, Michael American Dis 8:03.93

6 863 Nading, Dustin Western Oregon 8:11.67

7 716 Coyle, Thomas Stanford 8:12.90

8 736 Fischer, Reed Tinman Elite 8:13.85

9 625 Haughey, Gabriel Portland 8:13.91

10 638 Silva, Evert Portland 8:14.38

11 755 McDonald, Kieran U of Alberta 8:16.90

12 727 Perrier, Patrick Stanford 8:18.68

13 570 Perrin, Jake Gonzaga 8:24.49

14 623 Grannetia, Simon Portland 8:26.07

15 718 Grolle, Steven Stanford 8:32.95

16 566 Kopczynski, Scott Gonzaga 8:32.98

6 years ago 01/11/2018 11:06pm EST

re: Bill Oregon

6 years ago 01/11/2018 11:42pm EST

re: Bill Oregon

Bill Oregon wrote:
Predictions? Thoughts?
I am gonna predict 7:38 with the win

No way he runs that fast, that's faster than Centro's PR. I'd say 7:45 + or - a couple seconds.

6 years ago 01/11/2018 11:44pm EST

re: post checks out

If he runs sub 7:50, that would be quite remarkable in January.

I think 7:54 and change

6 years ago 01/12/2018 12:10am EST

re: Woahwhywhat

7:54 would be a great start.

6 years ago 01/12/2018 6:45am EST

re: Peter Piper

7:59. Not sure what he is doing in this event so maybe he will surprise.

6 years ago 01/12/2018 10:36am EST

re: Bill Oregon

Engels is an 800/1500 guy like Murphy. Murphy ran like 8:16 in his 3k. Looking at other 800/1500 guys...

Robby Andrews has run 8:40

Wheating ran a 13:59 road 5k

Merber has run 7:49

Torrence ran 7:40 (7:53 in his 800m days)

Leo 8:14

Centro 7:40

seems like high 7:40s could be likely if he's taking it seriously, but more likely chasing 7:50s

6 years ago 01/12/2018 11:14am EST

re: Bill Oregon

Bill Oregon wrote:
Predictions? Thoughts?
I am gonna predict 7:38 with the win

This is why we can't have nice things. Please tell me that you're not an adult, and are very new at track and field.

6 years ago 01/12/2018 12:58pm EST

re: Bill Oregon

Didn't he run a few races as a pro already? Do you mean pro indoor debut or pro 3k debut?

6 years ago 01/12/2018 1:34pm EST

re: YEAH BUDDY

Can't predict because we have not seen him race recently, but we can guess.

Plus it's the first race, not too important.

6 years ago 01/12/2018 3:28pm EST

re: Bill Oregon

7:53.

And he has certainly raced a number of times in the NOP singlet, so I'm guessing it's just his pro '3k' debut, although I don't see a 3k time from college, either. So maybe his 3k debut in general.

6 years ago 01/12/2018 3:49pm EST

re: YEAH BUDDY

YEAH BUDDY wrote:
Didn't he run a few races as a pro already? Do you mean pro indoor debut or pro 3k debut?

Yeah, i remember him chasing the mid-race 800 bonus in the 5th ave mile ...

6 years ago 01/13/2018 1:48pm EST

re: Bill Oregon

Did he cut the mullet? Stache?

7:54

6 years ago 01/13/2018 2:58pm EST

re: jacson freebase

Alberto typically has his athletes ready to roll right off the bat so if he’s capable of running sub 7:50 he’ll do it here.

6 years ago 01/13/2018 4:11pm EST

re: reed

reed wrote:
Engels is an 800/1500 guy like Murphy. Murphy ran like 8:16 in his 3k. Looking at other 800/1500 guys...
Robby Andrews has run 8:40
Wheating ran a 13:59 road 5k
Merber has run 7:49
Torrence ran 7:40 (7:53 in his 800m days)
Leo 8:14
Centro 7:40
seems like high 7:40s could be likely if he's taking it seriously, but more likely chasing 7:50s

Merber, Torrence, and Centro are all 1500/3k/5k guys

I mean, Centro ran 13:20 early season coming off of injury in 2014. David Torrence has consistently ran the 5k 13:17-13:25 since 2012 and was an Olympian in the 5k. Merber has been more solid in his 3k's than this his 800's.

Engels in particular ran 24:00 for 8k I believe so he definitely has strength. I think a bit more strength than Wheating, Andrews, and Murphy, but at the same time, he doesn't have the raw speed these 3 guys did either. I would say long term, Engels will be a 1500, 3k guy once he gets adjusted to the NOP training. I expect around 7:55-8:00, but I think he could go 7:40-7:45 in a couple of years.

6 years ago 01/13/2018 7:23pm EST

re: NOP Skeptic

6 years ago 01/13/2018 7:32pm EST

re: tommy tooters

He ran 7:55 for the win

6 years ago 01/13/2018 7:45pm EST

re: results reader

results reader wrote:
He ran 7:55 for the win

I'm going out on a limb to proudly declare him the GOAT!

6 years ago 01/13/2018 8:01pm EST

re: zesty girl

Hmm, guess he's not much of a responder.

6 years ago 01/13/2018 8:40pm EST

re: Bill Oregon

this wasnt his pro debut, he raced in the NOP kit multiple times last summer.

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