sage canaday houston prediction

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washed up wanna-be

Sage is past his thyme wrote:

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washed up wanna-be

Coming from a 25 minute 5k runner, you, I think Sage will stick to his own plan.

Jamisonmooresey wrote:

Did he run his PR under Hansons' or after he left?

YES. Sage's best time in bothe the marathon and half marathon came while he was a runner at Hansons. i believe his second best marathon time also took place while at Hansons.

Congratulations to Zach Hine on your marathon today in Houston.

1. First Cornell Alumni

2. First Hanson Alumni

3. Got your Trials Qualifier

No hype, no starting your own thread. Just good old fashion racing.

Jamisonmooresey wrote:

Did he run his PR under Hansons' or after he left?

Wow, ever hear of searching the internet?

I feel worse for Andy Wacker, another mountain guy, that just ran 1:04:11, missing the standard by 11-seconds. It's tough to shake off mountain legs and return to running that fast in a short build-up.

Kudos to Sage. Sub-2:20 is no joke.

gklj wrote:

Kudos to Sage. Sub-2:20 is no joke.

truth.

It's so easy for all the critics to judge. I have more respect for Sage for trying again and again, all while putting his goals out there for us all to watch. Nice work today Sage!

helping a brother wrote:

Jamisonmooresey wrote:

Did he run his PR under Hansons' or after he left?

Wow, ever hear of searching the internet?

under hansons was his 2;16;52 never got close before or since

Hrt wrote:

It's so easy for all the critics to judge. I have more respect for Sage for trying again and again, all while putting his goals out there for us all to watch. Nice work today Sage!

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gklj wrote:

Kudos to Sage. Sub-2:20 is no joke.

It is.

YukiK wrote:

gklj wrote:

Kudos to Sage. Sub-2:20 is no joke.

It is.

It is not. A lot of kenyans struggle to do it in training.

Unsolicited advice for Sage from someone who likely knows less about running than he does:

1) You are running your easy runs too fast. Slow it down to 8:00 or so.

2) Not enough marathon pace work. 4x3 at "mp effort" is not enough. Slowing the easy runs down will help you be able to run better workouts.

3) I don't think you need 130 mpw to run 2:19. It's too much. You're likely overtrained in terms of mileage, undertrained in terms of intensity.

4) In order to get your speed back you need more track work. 400s, 800s, 1600s. Your legs lost their speed in the Italian mountains. Get the speed back on the track. Enter some 5ks and 10ks.

5) Consider some strength training. I know you do core work and stretching, but I think some weight room work would be helpful.

1) Incorrect. He needs to get on flatter surfaces and keep cranking as quickly as he can go without damage. At least 80-85% MP pace.

2) Canova would say the opportunity would be in his long runs. He needs to do up to 40km at 90-95% MP pace. At altitude, this can be below 90% but not by much.

3) Agree... 100-120 mi is sufficient, but peaking at 130 miles is totally fine.

4) No 400s are needed. No need to enter 5ks or 10ks, but preferably a half marathon a month out. The only "speed" you need is alternations of marathon goal pace (up to 105%) with moderate recoveries.

5) Not necessary. Just incorporate maximum hill sprints once per week.

Canova Disciple wrote:

2) Canova would say the opportunity would be in his long runs. He needs to do up to 40km at 90-95% MP pace. At altitude, this can be below 90% but not by much.

I think this would be a very good idea. It is striking, looking at his Strava data, how little GMP or close-to-GMP (at altitude) work he does. I know he claims that running much more than 5 miles at GMP is too taxing, but I think he should try it one cycle. I'd like to see 20 w/5-10 (building every other week) @ GMP at the very least.

Unsolicitation wrote:

Unsolicited advice for Sage from someone who likely knows less about running than he does:

1) You are running your easy runs too fast. Slow it down to 8:00 or so.

2) Not enough marathon pace work. 4x3 at "mp effort" is not enough. Slowing the easy runs down will help you be able to run better workouts.

3) I don't think you need 130 mpw to run 2:19. It's too much. You're likely overtrained in terms of mileage, undertrained in terms of intensity.

4) In order to get your speed back you need more track work. 400s, 800s, 1600s. Your legs lost their speed in the Italian mountains. Get the speed back on the track. Enter some 5ks and 10ks.

5) Consider some strength training. I know you do core work and stretching, but I think some weight room work would be helpful.

he didnt average 130 pw last 9 weeks 90 100 99 130 90 86 110 125 93 making an average of 103

weird wrote:

he didnt average 130 pw last 9 weeks 90 100 99 130 90 86 110 125 93 making an average of 103

I never said he averaged 130. I said he doesn't need to run 130. It's unnecessary. 100 that week would have been sufficient.

Unsolicitation wrote:

weird wrote:

he didnt average 130 pw last 9 weeks 90 100 99 130 90 86 110 125 93 making an average of 103

I never said he averaged 130. I said he doesn't need to run 130. It's unnecessary. 100 that week would have been sufficient.

fair enough but its hard to say hes over trained on 103 mpw especially when you consider he was doing more than that at hansons the only 2 times hes done sub 2;19

Not to be a hater wrote:

Coach Sandy does not know how wrote:

Sage's "coach" which I think in reality he is self-coached, is what happens to a dude when he is p u s s y-whipped. This girl is probably the first and only girl he has ever been with. Worse part, is that she's not even pretty! Geez!

I'm not a hater, but I do have to question what qualifications Sandy has to coach a sub-elite marathoner. It might benefit Sage to get a coach who has coached individuals similar to him.

My guess is he already knows what works for him, but that Sandy saw things he was lacking in (a second opinion is always valuable) and he incorporated that stuff into his training.

He was close despite feeling very negative about his recent training. Can't help but think that he reloads for another marathon and runs 2:18-low after an objectively and subjectively better training cycle.