I run trails all the time and never have problems with bikers, horses or hikers. Courtesy is the norm. Exceptions are few.
Although I must say i don't understand why people take horses on trails. They just putter along at walking speed. What's the point? If I had a horse I would want to be hauling ass in an open field or something. To each, his own i guess.
FormerTree wrote:
Senator Clay Davis wrote:
Both act like self-righteous pricks, and neither seem to give a damn about trail etiquette (at least where I live). But who do you think is worse to run into?
OP - it sounds like you might be the problem. If you want those Strava CR's so bad, why don't you just train a little bit harder so you can bake in the extra 5 seconds it will cost you to be courteous when slipping by other trail users.
I figured someone would say this. Like I said before, I yield to equestrians and downhill traffic. I say hello and smile, as well as let slower uphill traffic know that I would like to/am going to pass them.
What I don't get is why people act like I'm ruining their day? Just say hello and smile, it's not that hard. Don't act like you own the trail, road, etc. And get your f'ing dog on a leash.
Also, Strava is for d-bags.
Senator Clay Davis wrote:
FormerTree wrote:
OP - it sounds like you might be the problem. If you want those Strava CR's so bad, why don't you just train a little bit harder so you can bake in the extra 5 seconds it will cost you to be courteous when slipping by other trail users.
I figured someone would say this. Like I said before, I yield to equestrians and downhill traffic. I say hello and smile, as well as let slower uphill traffic know that I would like to/am going to pass them.
What I don't get is why people act like I'm ruining their day? Just say hello and smile, it's not that hard. Don't act like you own the trail, road, etc. And get your f'ing dog on a leash.
I'd vote for this senator.
Senator Clay Davis wrote: Also, Strava is for d-bags.
you might be interested to know that Strava was never meant for runners. it was actually invented to help recover stray dogs. the original point was that dog owners could look on their phone and see where their dog was nine and half minutes ago.
Cheers.
The worst people on trails are dogs. In fairness, maybe it's those dogs' owners.
I love dogs and have had dogs my whole life, but some people are completely irresponsible about their dogs, and they're delusional about how bad/dangerous/destructive their dog's behavior is and always act shocked when something bad happens.
It's not 1800 any more. You're not in a trackless wilderness. Show some consideration for other people and the place you're hiking and keep your dog under control.
Mountain bikers
The correct answer is anyone who brings an animal that they can't control into a shared public space.
If your horse is gonna get spooked by another person, then find somewhere else to ride. Same with dogs, if your pet is gonna tear ass after someone and try to bite them as they run past, then keep it on a leash or keep it home. I love animals, but some people seem to think they have a right to take their unruly pets anywhere and everyone else just has to accommodate them.
I have a cat who's a total jerk, but you don't see me bringing him into a coffee shop and letting him loose to knock over other peoples' drinks.
I'm not sure what the issue is with horses... how have they negatively affected your run? Truly competitive endurance horses are very trail savvy and usually a very friendly lot. You may have had experience with rich folks with fancy horses who are a$$sholes in all aspects of their life, not just on the trail. The poop isn't an issue to me at all. unlike mountain bikes with can totally rip up the soil on a trail leaving it very rocky, horse poop is most grass and can actually help build trail.
Here's a tip on interacting with horses on the trail that many may not be familiar with: a red ribbon in the mane means the horse may bite, a red ribbon on the tail means the horse may kick. Some horses have bad habits that may or may not be the rider's fault, and this is a respectful heads up to try to avoid someone getting hurt.
I agree that you should bring an out of control dog or horse (or cat or dolphin, or whatever) to congested public parks, but what is the limit on that.... I have my dogs off leash when I'm running in the national forest outside of Flagstaff and 95% of the time I never see another human because it is out of the way (I bring leashes anyway). I would never run in the city parks with them off leash. Same goes for horses... are you supposed to not bring an ornery horse out on even desolate trails and dirt roads?
Horses/riders, hikers and other runners are generally polite but mountain bikers are generally inconsiderate out on the trails. Lot of young yahoos out bombing the trails with no consideration for others. Dirtbikers?! I don't run on any trails where they're allowed.
Cottonshirt wrote:
Senator Clay Davis wrote: Also, Strava is for d-bags.
you might be interested to know that Strava was never meant for runners. it was actually invented to help recover stray dogs. the original point was that dog owners could look on their phone and see where their dog was nine and half minutes ago.
Cheers.
WINNER!
Neither... my issue is with other runners that wear headphones and aren’t aware of the surroundings
WTF. Dear Ride & Tie gimp. This is a running website. Go hang out with your weirdo gimp friends.
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Cyclists are entitled self righteous a*****\**s.
Trailxers wrote:
Neither... my issue is with other runners that wear headphones and aren’t aware of the surroundings
Yes, that's a good one too. I was running down a trail the other day and ahead of me was a young woman with headphones in. I said "on your left" before I got up to her, but she obviously didn't hear me. I said it louder, still nothing. Finally I basically shouted at her and still nothing.
I hopped off the trail to basically bushwack around her, and as I pass her, she jumps back and says "what the f*uk?!" in a surprised and scared manner. She then begins to yell at me that I need to tell people when I'm trying to pass, otherwise "it can be a dangerous and scary situation".
Why do people, especially hikers need to use headphones on trails? Where I live there are bears and mountain lions everywhere, not to mention mountain bikers, runners, hikers, and equestrians around every corner.
Senator Clay Davis wrote:
Trailxers wrote:
Neither... my issue is with other runners that wear headphones and aren’t aware of the surroundings
Yes, that's a good one too. I was running down a trail the other day and ahead of me was a young woman with headphones in. I said "on your left" before I got up to her, but she obviously didn't hear me. I said it louder, still nothing. Finally I basically shouted at her and still nothing.
I hopped off the trail to basically bushwack around her, and as I pass her, she jumps back and says "what the f*uk?!" in a surprised and scared manner. She then begins to yell at me that I need to tell people when I'm trying to pass, otherwise "it can be a dangerous and scary situation".
Why do people, especially hikers need to use headphones on trails? Where I live there are bears and mountain lions everywhere, not to mention mountain bikers, runners, hikers, and equestrians around every corner.
+1
If you are going to use headphones, at least take one of the earpieces out and only use one of them so that you're aware of your surroundings.