1:15:14 half marathon as a 16 year old, I've only been running for a year and a half

9:36 is very good and converts to about 9 minutes for 3k! You are on the right track now how much training you are doing to get to this level is another matter. If you more races this winter jump in a 1k or 1 mile race. Your aerobic system seems developed. Off to run on Saturday morning in the heat and our fast young junior boys/with 33 min female i coach will do 9-10k progressive run over hills! Remember to do the least amount of volume to get best possible results! Good lcuk!

Er... wrote:

The kid has talent and enthusiasm. Let's hope he sticks with it and, as others have suggested, he continues to love the sport and benefit from his commitment to it.

But he'll run 14:45 as a senior high school? He'll "likely" be state champion? You wouldn't be surprised to see 13:45 from him in college? You have no basis to make any of these predictions. I hope the best for him and that he continues to love training and racing, but your predictions don't help him at all.

Do I not? I see what he ran last year (his first year) and what he placed in State Meet (in my state). I see who he was up against this Fall. Unlike you I know something about them. I see that he ran 9:36 LAST NIGHT. Having

I won't put my progression up here for you, because it's not about me, but I ran 14:48 in HS and it was not in any kind of well-organized Hoover-race. He is headed for times like mine in junior and senior year. One difference is that I ran from 6th grade on and trained seriously since November of freshman year. Sounds like he is about a year behind me in terms of training.

He has FIVE guys ahead of him who are coming back next year. That is almost unheard of in Michigan for an 11th placer. So those are long odds. One of those guys ran 4:23y indoors and 4:17m as a sophomore, his older brother was 14th last year at Footlocker and ran 8:55 as a JUNIOR. So that will be a tall order. But, that was his brother.

He is at 9:36 in December. I don't want to put undue pressure on him (and I already have), but State Meet was won last year indoors in a slower time than 9:36. So he has NINE more chances (two races indoor; two races outdoor; one in XC; 2 indoor; 2 outdoor). So does every guy who is a junior or BELOW in his Division in MI who is a 1600/3200 runner.

I know MI, and you don't.

The Overexplainer wrote:

When I was a junior in HS I ran 15:49 in XC on a legit course. In the winter of Junior year I ran 15:37 on the road.

In Spring I ran the REVCO Cleveland Marathon in 2:35. I ran it conservatively, as I really didn't know what my ceiling was.

If that 13.1 miles is accurate, you are in that kind of shape, maybe.

A good HM for HS would be 1:10, a great one would be 1:06-07.

That's ridiculous dude. No high schooler could run 1:06 unless they were next level Rupp/Solinsky talent, and then they'd have to train specifically for it.

B8_jenny wrote:

I'm 16 years old and yesterday I went out for a long run, not expecting it to be fast but 5k in I felt pretty good and decided how long I could hold a decent pace and I ended up going 13.13 miles in 1:15:14. I ran on average about 80 mpw during this last cross season but I'm still in my build up phase for indoor and outdoor track and I'm at about 60 mpw in this point in my training. I'm not sure if this is really something to write home about since high schoolers don't typically run half marathons, and I'm kind of freaked out about how fast I've gotten into shape. I've only been training seriously for track for 2 weeks now. Thoughts?? (My 5k xc pr is 15:51)

Mile splits:

6:07

5:53

6:01

5:48

5:49

5:41

5:36

5:42

5:39

5:24

5:43 (big headwind when I turned right at 10.2 miles)

5:43

5:29

Last .13 in 38 seconds

Thoughts???????

it's a good time, honestly a lot of people are just a little salty because you're probably faster than they are and whether or not you meant to you came off as a little cocky.

I don’t really understand why the OP is getting such negative replies. He shared a good run with us, and yes, it is great for his age / any age. The question I have for the OP is why he ran the 60m and 200m and how those and their sprint times have improved. It strikes me that you may not be training pure speed sufficiently.

So I was a sprinter during middle school and my freshmen years of track, I started distance summer going into my sophomore year, signed up for cross and never sprinted again

100m wrote:

I don’t really understand why the OP is getting such negative replies. He shared a good run with us, and yes, it is great for his age / any age. The question I have for the OP is why he ran the 60m and 200m and how those and their sprint times have improved. It strikes me that you may not be training pure speed sufficiently.

I am glad to see that the thread has taken a turn for the positive. The OP is doing it exactly right. He started distance running as a sophomore and showed some promise. He started training like a monster and is reaping the benefits. Keep it up, OP.

Honestly, I don't see too big of a problem with running 80mpw.

Mileage will NOT burn you out, as if you run it at the correct pace it should not put much stress on your body. The important thing to keep tabs on for your development is the intensity of your training. Make sure your tempo runs are actually tempo runs and make sure you do not place all your efforts into early-season races and offseason runs.

I see many American athletes running 40mpw, getting needlessly injured and burned out off of high intensity and low mileage in short amounts of time. At the same time, there are many east-African runners who started out running to and from school at for long distances at relatively easy paces for long periods of time. These athetes are not burned out and injured, but rather running at the top of the world a few years down the road.

Good job with your aerobic development; many kids who run the same times as you would really struggle to pull off this time for a half. Just make sure you keep running with your intensity well-controlled, and you can expect continual improvement and big things down the road.

How did the rest of your indoor season go? What did you end up reaching for 800m/1600m/3200m for outdoors?

Does your team have a good group returning this Fall for XC?

The Overexplainer wrote:

How did the rest of your indoor season go? What did you end up reaching for 800m/1600m/3200m for outdoors?

Does your team have a good group returning this Fall for XC?

According to Athletic.net, Jensen ran a 4:28 1600, 9:15 3200 and 15:36 5000 indoors!

Congrats mate, keep at it! Definitely a marathoner in the making.. just don't neglect that speed

Er... wrote:

The kid has talent and enthusiasm. Let's hope he sticks with it and, as others have suggested, he continues to love the sport and benefit from his commitment to it.

But he'll run 14:45 as a senior high school? He'll "likely" be state champion? You wouldn't be surprised to see 13:45 from him in college? You have no basis to make any of these predictions. I hope the best for him and that he continues to love training and racing, but your predictions don't help him at all.

HaHa. Just goes to show you what a bunch of Marys frequent Letsrun.

I was looking through the results to our State Championships and remembered that this kid posted a 9:38 indoors in December and he was curious about what other people thought he might be capable of.

I was encouraging and said that he WILL get the 4:25/9:25 that he and his coach were planning on. I went further, but a lot of people (who don't understand HS running or running in general) were being negative. I will let (some of) you know-nothing turds read for yourselves how wrong you were.

He was a junior this past year and he tanked in his individual events at State Meet, however he (and his relay team) won the 4 X 800m at State Meet (7:56 in Div 2) and he ended up running 4:28 / 9:15 / 15:11 over the course of the season.

The 15:11 was for 7th place in Section 1 at NBNO.

While there is NO WAY to know how far someone will go (until they do it), someone like this shows how "your dreams can become reality" ... just take a break from being so negative to everyone for a minute.

big HONKING birds wrote:

The Overexplainer wrote:

When I was a junior in HS I ran 15:49 in XC on a legit course. In the winter of Junior year I ran 15:37 on the road.

In Spring I ran the REVCO Cleveland Marathon in 2:35. I ran it conservatively, as I really didn't know what my ceiling was.

If that 13.1 miles is accurate, you are in that kind of shape, maybe.

A good HM for HS would be 1:10, a great one would be 1:06-07.

That's ridiculous dude. No high schooler could run 1:06 unless they were next level Rupp/Solinsky talent, and then they'd have to train specifically for it.

What is the Women's WR for HM? Then think what is the women's WR for 10k? Then think how many HS boys have run 28:32-29:27 for 10k over the last 45 years? He said 1:06-1:07 ... I interpret that as up to 1:07:59.

If Molly Huddle can run 1:07:25, think what her track 10k is and think how many HSers have run that? A couple hundred. You would not have to be the best HSer of all-time, just capable of 30:00-30:30 for 10k.

Granted, a 1:06:00 HM might be out of reach maybe, but not if he could get to 14:45 on the track. A 1:07:20-1:07:50 would be a slam-dunk for this kid. But who cares? He is busy getting great at 800/1600/3200/5000m.