Justin Gatlin embroiled in new doping scandal

The Telegraph could've gotten itself in hot water. And judging from that snide comment under the QOD, Letsrun appears to have jumped on the bandwagon without a thought. If this really is the hit job it's starting to look like, I hope Gatlin sues them to oblivion. It's the types prone to picking up torches and pitchforks that should be avoided in real life.

https://www.3wiresports.com/articles/2017/12/19/gwbc8ncpoh3iyb0xlw1p7zfo1qa09x

IANAL, but don’t think Alan Abrahamson is either and he doesn’t seem to understand just how favorable New York Times v. Sullivan is for the press. Gatlin could sue, but it would be pure posturing. He will never win a settlement from a jury.

Wagner also represent(ed) Imani Oliver, a triple jumper, who recently got busted. Oliver never broke 13m while in college, only broke 13m once (13.05m) in 2015, but dramatically improved to 14.02m for the 2016 Olympic Trials, where she got popped.

https://www.usada.org/imani-oliver-accepts-doping-sanction/

And then there's this (from 2007):

"Wagner's decision to expand into bookmaking has raised questions about a possible conflict of interest because he could, in theory, have an influence on the outcome of races. Last week, for example, Wagner's website was running a book on the women's 800m at the Sparkassen Cup indoor meeting in Stuttgart. Ceplak, the overwhelming pre-race favourite, was well beaten after attempting to keep up with the suicidal pace-making of American athlete Sasha Spencer - another Wagner client who is also the new website's marketing and public relations manager. While there is no suggestion of any wrong-doing, the very presence in the race of two athletes managed by Wagner raises questions of conflict of interest."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/2307568/IAAF-oblivious-to-risk-of-gambling-scandal.html

I have no idea if Gatlin is doping, but when he issues a statement indicating shock and surprise that his coach would have anything to do with doping, I can't help but wonder at his honesty. Does Justin think we have been living in a hole and do not know Dennis Mitchell's past?

Shame Game wrote:

The Brojos vendetta with Gatlin is disgusting.

When THREE test results from Paula Radcliffe are leaked with ridiculous off-scores, Wejo goes on a jog with Paula and tells us everything is good and she works really hard. When WADA lists Evan Jager as LIKELY DOPING, they do a podcast with Jager and accept his explanations carte blanche. Ajee Wilson blames a positive steroid test on juiced Jamaican beef and the Brojos basically shrug and say whatever.

Justin Gatlin is mentioned in passing during a shady investigative sting operation and the Brojos plaster the front page with snide remarks about Gatlin. Currently, there isn't a test result, paper trail, or shred of physical evidence linking Justin Gatlin to doping.

Have some integrity and keep your "reporting" to verifiable facts rather than he said -she said nonsense and sarcastic jabs.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN - POST OF THE F***EN YEAR!!!!!!!!!!

Just in time before 2018.

Shame Game wrote:

The Brojos vendetta with Gatlin is disgusting.

When THREE test results from Paula Radcliffe are leaked with ridiculous off-scores, Wejo goes on a jog with Paula and tells us everything is good and she works really hard. When WADA lists Evan Jager as LIKELY DOPING, they do a podcast with Jager and accept his explanations carte blanche. Ajee Wilson blames a positive steroid test on juiced Jamaican beef and the Brojos basically shrug and say whatever.

Justin Gatlin is mentioned in passing during a shady investigative sting operation and the Brojos plaster the front page with snide remarks about Gatlin. Currently, there isn't a test result, paper trail, or shred of physical evidence linking Justin Gatlin to doping.

Have some integrity and keep your "reporting" to verifiable facts rather than he said -she said nonsense and sarcastic jabs.

They might be doping but not of them has served 2 drugs bans has a coach who served a drugs ban or have a coach who has just agreed to dope an athlete. Those are the facts

First and foremost, one of those bans was for f***en Adderall. Something he had been taken for 10 years prior to that sentence. A sentence that has been marked ridiculous even by the BloJos.

Many guilty people who aren't behind bars doesn't make them any less innocent.

Paula's 2:15 is about as clean as FloJos 10.49. BloJos get hard for Gatlin every chance they can.

Fact King wrote:

First and foremost, one of those bans was for f***en Adderall. Something he had been taken for 10 years prior to that sentence. A sentence that has been marked ridiculous even by the BloJos.

OK, everyone agrees that ban was bullsh+t, OK? But what remains is a guy who has a doping black mark on his record, unfair or not, and therefore has to be EXTRA SPECIAL CAREFUL to not ingest, snort, or inject anything banned.

But, being a sprinter with world class aspirations, this was literally impossible. It's dope somehow or get off the pro track trainy train.

So he dopes and gets caught. Testy-testosterone, not adderal. BOOM. done.

So again he comes back. He's older for a sprinter now. He figures: eh fuggit. I dope with the designer stuff and if I get away with it, great, if not, it's not like I had a sterling reputation and I can just quit for good. No loss.

I'm sure this Gatlin guy is no more doped than anyone else out there at that level. But that doesn't make him clean.

He's just dumb as shite for letting people like Mitchell and that fat guy agent or whoever he is, into his life, people who flap there faces at the damn reporters. Let em all sink into poop and pee!

Degrasses’s coach thinks Gatlin is clean.

That was all just "locker room talk" by Wagner where he was playing along with the reporter. All athletes engage in that kind of locker room talk. It doesn't mean anything.

Fact King wrote:

ukathleticscoach wrote:

They might be doping but not of them has served 2 drugs bans has a coach who served a drugs ban or have a coach who has just agreed to dope an athlete. Those are the facts

First and foremost, one of those bans was for f***en Adderall. Something he had been taken for 10 years prior to that sentence. A sentence that has been marked ridiculous even by the BloJos.

Many guilty people who aren't behind bars doesn't make them any less innocent.

Paula's 2:15 is about as clean as FloJos 10.49. BloJos get hard for Gatlin every chance they can.

Sure they always have a cover story. I notice you didn't mention his 2nd ban.

Two wrongs don't make a right so Paula Radcliffe case is irrelevant. Gatlin is still a Doping cheat

Remember when Ben Johnson ran that ridiculous 9.79 in Seoul during the 1988 Olympics. He was full up of Stanazolol that his eyes turned yellow, his head look like a giant botox experiment and he went from fit looking to ripped, eased at the finish line, looked to his right, so relaxed.

Gatlin, two-time cheat at age 35 ran faster: 9.74.

Anyone ever notice how rare it is for sprinters to make noise about other sprinters being dirty?

I can't recall ever hearing a peepity peep from any of them. Wonder why that is?

It may be true that someone wants to take Gatlin "down" -- but it's highly unlikely there's not good reasons for it.

They all dirty. Thats why you never hear things about accusations rarely.

Sorry, I had some beer for breakfast!

wejo wrote:

I take back what I said about Mitchell article does say this, "Mitchell, who has worked as Gatlin’s coach for several years, was also involved in the scheme to train the actor and offered to arrange for doctors to administer the drugs."

So Mitchell and Wagner are both on record saying they can get the fake actor drugs. Wagner said Gatlin used the drugs as well.

Wagner has never been an agent for Gatlin, never. Wagner Im sure has used Gatlins name to better himself.

Mitchell has coached a number of world class sprinters and until recent as you recall was the US relays team coach until he stepped down under pressure. Yes he was a busted for PED's.

Nonsense without credability wrote:

Wagner has never been an agent for Gatlin, never. Wagner Im sure has used Gatlins name to better himself.

Mitchell has coached a number of world class sprinters and until recent as you recall was the US relays team coach until he stepped down under pressure. Yes he was a busted for PED's.

According to this, Robert Wagner is Gatlin's "track agent." What is a track agent? Is it different from an "agent"?

USATF says Gatlin's agent is Renaldo Nehemiah, but USATF was wrong or not current about Lolo Jones's agent.

Wagner and Nehemiah work for the same agency.

Fentrekker wrote:

I have no idea if Gatlin is doping, but when he issues a statement indicating shock and surprise that his coach would have anything to do with doping, I can't help but wonder at his honesty. Does Justin think we have been living in a hole and do not know Dennis Mitchell's past?

He is most likely shocked and surprised that someone like Mitchell, who has had doping issues in the past, would be so stupid as to get involved in anything involving doping. That is also the reason I think Gatlin has not been doping but has been clean since returning from his suspension.

It is very clear that what happened was the two idiots Wagner and Mitchell got greedy when contacted by an "ignorant" actor offering them $250k. Of course they are going to brag about giving stuff to big name athletes whether or not that is true. That is why Gatlin is so furious and immediately fired Mitchell. Gatlin doesn't have to say "sorry", he hasn't done anything to apologize for. He is rightfully upset his coach, who is already making good money (is Mitchell on the Nike payroll?), would throw him under the bus to score a quick $125k (assuming a split of the $250k with Wagner).

Regarding the reason why Gatlin would have Mitchell coach him - doesn't the standard Nike contract for elite track athletes stipulate who can coach them? The athletes apparently can only work under approved Nike coaches. Remember when Nike required Tyson Gay to move to Los Angeles to train with John Smith? That was covered in the press, that Gay was contractually required to train under Smith. Gatlin's contract is probably worded similarly. Is Mitchell a Nike-paid coach?

Having a pre-determined agenda prevents people from asking the correct questions and digging just a tiny bit more into a situation. The LRC staff is simply regurgitating the tabloid stories and not asking the obvious questions.

Just a load off guesswork from a doping apologist

Ben's conscience wrote:

Remember when Ben Johnson ran that ridiculous 9.79 in Seoul during the 1988 Olympics. He was full up of Stanazolol that his eyes turned yellow, his head look like a giant botox experiment and he went from fit looking to ripped, eased at the finish line, looked to his right, so relaxed.

Gatlin, two-time cheat at age 35 ran faster: 9.74.

I'm suspicious as well, Carl Lewis only ever did 9.86, and he was a dirty filthy basturd.