Galen was a footlocker runner up during an extremely weak era. Not the same thing as Katelyn blowing the field away by 40+ seconds.
Galen was a footlocker runner up during an extremely weak era. Not the same thing as Katelyn blowing the field away by 40+ seconds.
"If she's properly paced, it's a piece of cake. Equiv of Sisson's NCAA record goes too."
What are you smoking? You really think she is going to run faster then Sisson did? This is absolute insanity. She's a GREAT runner.....One of the best ever. However, outside of she and Lane, there is zero depth in women's HS running right now. I would love to see her pushed to find out what she can really do.....But really....You think this will happen?:
5000 15:12.22 Emily Sisson (Providence) New York, New York 2/28/15
Relax. Chances of that are zero. I think if paced she could run somewhere around 15:40. In fact, that's my prediction....Which is the fastest ever by a HSer.
Noweregoingtoofar wrote:
" However, outside of she and Lane, there is zero depth in women's HS running right now.
I agree with the rest of your post but...Chmiel has run 9:59 for 3200, 9:18 for 3000. That would be topnotch most years. And Hart and Theis are as good or better. The depth is fine, Tuohy and Lane have just launched past even the all-time greats leaving a gap to what is merely excellent.
Why is she ranked so low on All Pro's Girls Power 25?? She is easily a top #5 talent in the U.S. for girls High School Track & Field. https://allprotrackandfield.com/all-pro-track-field-girls-power-25/
Athleticsfanatic wrote:
Why is she ranked so low on All Pro's Girls Power 25?? She is easily a top #5 talent in the U.S. for girls High School Track & Field.
https://allprotrackandfield.com/all-pro-track-field-girls-power-25/
What an idiotic site. Lexi Halladay is ranked #7 and she finished 20th at NXN. The #1 girl (sprinter who the site owner probably babysat or something) is nowhere even near the top ten all-time (was #2 in the 100 last year and has a 7th grader faster than her in the 200).
Tuohy is among the top 3 all-time already in XC, and is even better on the track.
Just shows that any idiot can throw up a "rankings" site.
no need to worry wrote:
All this hand wringing and second guessing about her being overworked is being extrapolated from a few random tidbits of info[.]
Seriously. It's the same story, over and over again. Everyone thinks they know what's going on, but almost nobody has enough information to make any kind of informed judgment. Moreover, kids aren't that fragile. Unless you're running on a specific injury, you don't just accidentally train so hard that you fry yourself and screw up your long term development. It takes a lot to get there, and it's also pretty hard to train that way if you have nobody to push you but yourself.
Of course, many female phenoms don't end up becoming stars in college and beyond, but it's not because they were overworked and damaged by their coaches. It's because of puberty. (Which is why people rarely freak out about coaches overworking male runners; they tend to be far more predictable in their trajectories.)
Idiocracy wrote:
Athleticsfanatic wrote:
Why is she ranked so low on All Pro's Girls Power 25?? She is easily a top #5 talent in the U.S. for girls High School Track & Field.
https://allprotrackandfield.com/all-pro-track-field-girls-power-25/What an idiotic site. Lexi Halladay is ranked #7 and she finished 20th at NXN. The #1 girl (sprinter who the site owner probably babysat or something) is nowhere even near the top ten all-time (was #2 in the 100 last year and has a 7th grader faster than her in the 200).
Tuohy is among the top 3 all-time already in XC, and is even better on the track.
Just shows that any idiot can throw up a "rankings" site.
I also believe Tuohy should be higher up, but given it's a track ranking, winning the Dream Mile in 4:41 as a freshman while beating Brie Oakley among other stars should be worth something. Give credit to Halladay.
To be fair wrote:
Idiocracy wrote:
What an idiotic site. Lexi Halladay is ranked #7 and she finished 20th at NXN. The #1 girl (sprinter who the site owner probably babysat or something) is nowhere even near the top ten all-time (was #2 in the 100 last year and has a 7th grader faster than her in the 200).
Tuohy is among the top 3 all-time already in XC, and is even better on the track.
Just shows that any idiot can throw up a "rankings" site.
I also believe Tuohy should be higher up, but given it's a track ranking, winning the Dream Mile in 4:41 as a freshman while beating Brie Oakley among other stars should be worth something. Give credit to Halladay.
4:41 is great, but it's not 4:18 for 1500 as a 9th grader.
2 weeks until Katlyn’s big exhibition! I can’t wait for the hammer to drop on all female high schoolers in America. Maybe Konatanze Klisterkshfkeb could give her a run for her money.
Yay!! wrote:
2 weeks until Katlyn’s big exhibition! I can’t wait for the hammer to drop on all female high schoolers in America. Maybe Konatanze Klisterkshfkeb could give her a run for her money.
Can't wait? It began 4 months ago.
Yay!! wrote:
2 weeks until Katlyn’s big exhibition! I can’t wait for the hammer to drop on all female high schoolers in America. Maybe Konatanze Klisterkshfkeb could give her a run for her money.
Klosterhalfen is clearly on a completely different level and a couple years older. Tuohy is amazing, but not really a good comparison. There is no way she will run under 15 minutes.
Konstanze is about to turn 21.
Katelyn is what, 15? 16?
YMMV wrote:
robert678 wrote:
Is it too early to attempt such a fast 5k so shortly after NXN? Predictions on what time she runs?
Does it take more than six weeks to recover from a 5K race which she won easily? The girl was absolutely unchallenged all season.
Yes, more letsrun pros over-thinking everything. My God, she ran a race 2 weeks ago, 3 weeks ago, 5 weeks ago...how could she possibly be recovered? :):):):):):):) robert678, where do you get this logic from? NXN till now and you think she hasn't recovered. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Tuohy ran a 3k just now at the Ocean Breeze Freedom Games. 9:05.26. #2 all time behind Mary Chain's 9:04.51. Unbelievable.
*Cain, obviously
Why wait two weeks wrote:
Tuohy ran a 3k just now at the Ocean Breeze Freedom Games. 9:05.26. #2 all time behind Mary Chain's 9:04.51. Unbelievable.
And she does not need weeks to recover. Total BS from the coddler mentality of the 21st Century (not her, the people who post on here).
Klosterhalfen (who will turn 21 in February) was not really such an amazing wunderkind before 18-19 and she also focussed mostly on 800/1500 until then. She ran 8:53 with 18.
Alina Reh was more of teenage wonder; she ran 9:05 and 15:55 at 17, both German u18 records. But as there is no highly competitive HS running in Germany, there is considerably less motivation to have early peaking u16 or u18 wunderkinder.
9:05.26 over 3k at Ocean Breeze today.
Pretty nice early season mark. lol
Full results?
Tvtyygggyygygv wrote:
She opens up with a 3000m in early January. Can't she run sub 9:04 and also get that record?
I was sure that she was in sub 9 shape a couple of months ago