Apples and Peaches wrote:
Jon Orange has been deafeningly silent. British cycling is clean to him.
I saw him on his bike the other day. Looking suspiciously fast for an old man.
Apples and Peaches wrote:
Jon Orange has been deafeningly silent. British cycling is clean to him.
I saw him on his bike the other day. Looking suspiciously fast for an old man.
who?? wrote:
Apples and Peaches wrote:
Jon Orange has been deafeningly silent. British cycling is clean to him.
I saw him on his bike the other day. Looking suspiciously fast for an old man.
Brits generally aren't the most athletically gifted. So the way they suddenly swept all before them at the Olympics and now winning in all types of cycling is more than a little surprising. I'm a L'Équipe subscriber and the French (riders, journalists, public) are not buying it one bit.
Cath Wiggins retracts tweet calling Froome a 'slithering reptile;
Cycling Weekly:
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According to World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) rules, 1,600 micrograms of salbutamol can be taken by an athlete via inhaler in a 24-hour period without the need for a therapeutic use exemption (TUE) certificate. A TUE is issued when an athlete requires a drug listed as prohibited by WADA for a legitimate medical need.
>>> The truth about cycling and asthma
What is an ‘adverse analytical finding’?
An adverse analytical finding is when an anti-doping authority identifies a potential breach in anti-doping rules, in this case a specified substance detected at a higher-than-allowed level by the Cycling Anti-Doping Foundation (CADF). CADF are responsible for doping control for the UCI.
WADA rules state that salbutamol is permitted to be present up to a threshold of 1,000 nanograms per millilitre (ng/ml). Froome’s urine sample collected on September 7, 2017, after stage 18 of the Vuelta is reported to have had 2,000ng/ml."
uh, ok fred. It's all soap opera to me. Entertaining in a way. Froome is dull so it makes things a bit more interesting to have something to gossip about. I just hope next years Tour is a lot more exiting. This year they were all so closely matched it was a bit of an anticlimax. And the mountains stages weren't hard enough either. We'll never know how much he inhaled cuz they don't or won't tell us. And we don't know or whether he has asthma or not and never will.
Mr. Froome is bringing in the big boy lawyers.
London-based lawyer Mike Morgan has been appointed to fight the verdict.
Morgan and his company Morgan Sports Law successfully defended British cyclist Lizzie Armistead when she avoided a four-year ban in 2016 following three missed drugs tests within a 12-month period.
Other recent clients include Russian tennis player Maria Sharapova, French footballer Mamadou Sakho, Spanish and South African cyclists Sergio Henao and Daryl Impey, Jamaican sprinter Veronica Campbell-Brown and Croatian tennis player Marin Čilić.
He also supported boxer Tyson Fury after he was cleared to compete again despite accepting a two-year drugs ban from UK Anti-Doping.
They have also been hired by Russian athletes and the country's National Olympic Committee during the ongoing doping scandal there.
Tony Martin, the German and Team Katusha–Alpecin time trial expert who finished second to Froome's third at the London 2012 Olympics, has criticised the handling of the case.
"I am totally angry," he wrote on his personal Facebook account.
"There is definitely a double standard being applied in the Christopher Froome case.
"Other athletes are suspended immediately after a positive test.
"He and his team are given time by the UCI to explain it all.
"I do not know of any similar case in the recent past."
Froome was informed of the finding on September 20, with analysis having since confirmed the result.
He was permitted to compete and win a time trial bronze medal on the same day at the World Championships in Bergen and still has not been suspended.
"That is a scandal, and he should at least not have been allowed to appear in the World Championships," Martin added.
"Not only the public but also I have immediately the impression that there is wheeling and dealing going on behind the scenes, agreements are being made and ways are being sought as to how to get out of this case.
"Do he and his team enjoy a special status?
"These actions are major blow to the difficult anti-doping fight, which I am leading with riders like [German sprinter] Marcel Kittel.
"We need a consequent and transparent approach by the UCI.
"What is going on here is inconsequent, not transparent, unprofessional and unfair."
Stop being a big whiner and deal with it.
This is Team Sky.
The lawyers stepping up to defend doping should be banned from law for life or put in prison - they are an as big a part of the problem. Froome and team Sky should be banned from cycling period. If the UCI does not do this hopefully the public instead can enforce justice and strongarm them out of races and thus prevent them from committing crimes on roads which have been paid for with the public's taxes.
The Reptile House wrote:
Cath Wiggins retracts tweet calling Froome a 'slithering reptile;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/42363825
Pot meet Kettle and their two bitchy teacups are at it too.
barney rubble wrote:
uh, ok fred. It's all soap opera to me. Entertaining in a way. Froome is dull so it makes things a bit more interesting to have something to gossip about. I just hope next years Tour is a lot more exiting. This year they were all so closely matched it was a bit of an anticlimax. And the mountains stages weren't hard enough either. We'll never know how much he inhaled cuz they don't or won't tell us. And we don't know or whether he has asthma or not and never will.
If he was taking a high dose beta agonist, salbutamol, like the Scandinavians, it would be for weight loss and muscle growth. As it was only on one day, it was for opening the lungs to breathe. Unless the drug testers are fudging the results.
NCBI:
"After only 4 days of clenbuterol treatment, the protein masses of the gastrocnemius and soleus muscles were increased 17.7 and 50.6 percent, respectively, over the controls. These larger muscle protein masses were maintained throughout the 21-day test period. In both the gastrocnemius and soleus muscles, the rate of protein degradation was decreased on day 4 by 55 percent, with no change in the rate of protein synthesis"
If you took a B agonist such as salbutamol in pill form at a dose that did not trigger a positive, every day of the competition, you might block the break down of muscle from the stress of biking and have an advantage over those not taking it.
The problem would be in getting the right dose in the ingested pill form, so that you could say that you inhaled it for breathing.
Didn't one of the Spaniards get nailed for Clenbuterol?
doctorj wrote:
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
Well going by cycling logic Froome will get less than Ulissi.
True! It goes down in blocks of 3 months (12-3=9-3=6) So Froomie wil get 6 months and loose his Vuelta if we apply that logic, or lack of it.
Bang on, it is completely ridiculous.
fred wrote:
http://fasterskier.com/fsarticle/norwegian-ski-team-recommended-nebulizer-use-by-healthy-athletes-say-anonymous-skiers/
The clenbuterol was in the dead cow which I was eating by mistake.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/athletics/mo-farah/11694959/Alberto-Salazar-faces-fresh-doping-claims.htmlhttps://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/sports/nike-oregon-project-alberto-salazar-dathan-ritzenhein.htmlReally.
Brits are special boys wrote:
Mr. Froome is bringing in the big boy lawyers. London-based lawyer Mike Morgan has been appointed to fight the verdict.
Morgan and his company Morgan Sports Law successfully defended British cyclist Lizzie Armistead when she avoided a four-year ban in 2016 following three missed drugs tests within a 12-month period.
What, what, what? Lizzie Armistead! Well that says it all then. If she is dirty then they're all rotten.
rj
Mo too. For that clean, lean, mean look.
Yeah man, I ate the whole cow.
I used to have access to vast quantities of clenbuterol when I worked with horses.
Dr. Richard Freeman was with Team Sky.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/richard-freeman-resigns-from-british-cycling/
Dr. Jeffrey Brown was with Coach Alberto:
http://running.competitor.com/2017/06/news/doping-allegations-oregon-project-doctor_165103
Dr. Michele Ferrari was with Lance Armstrong, many cyclists, and some Italian skiers...
In the penultimate chapter of a doping story which began nearly two and a half years ago, Italian biathlon relay World Champion Gottlieb Taschler and his son Daniel, an IBU Cup-level competitor, were convicted by an Italian court. Doping is a criminal offense in Italy and Daniel Taschler was convicted of using illegal methods, while his father was convicted of assisting and concealing the activities.
News first broke in late 2014 that the younger Taschler had been using the blood-boosting drug recombinant erythropoietin (EPO). He allegedly did so with the help of infamous “Doctor EPO” Michele Ferrari, a collaboration which was arranged by his father — who was then the Vice President for Sport of the International Biathlon Union (IBU), as well as the president of the Antholz-Anterselva World Cup Organizing Committee.
The court also found Ferrari in violation, and fined him 4,500 Euros with 18 months of imprisonment, during which time he is not allowed to work as a doctor. Like the Taschlers, Ferrari saw his prison sentence suspended. He was also, however, ordered to pay a 15,000 Euro fine to the World Anti-Doping Agency.
http://fasterskier.com/fsarticle/taschlers-ferrari-sentenced-high-profile-biathlon-doping-case/
And now the humans are doping dogs:
Rule #1:
Follow the MONEY.
PubMed:
"Tramadol, a centrally acting analgesic, consists of two enantiomers, both of which contribute to analgesic activity via different mechanisms. (+) Tramadol and the metabolite (+) -O- desmethyl-tramadol (M1) are agonists of the mu opioid receptor. (+) Tramadol also stimulates presinaptic release of serotonin and inhibits serotonin reuptake whereas (-) tramadol inhibits norepinephrine reuptake. Thus tramadol enhances inhibitory effects on pain transmission both by opioid and monoaminergic mechanisms"
fred wrote:
PubMed:
"Tramadol, a centrally acting analgesic, consists of two enantiomers, both of which contribute to analgesic activity via different mechanisms. (+) Tramadol and the metabolite (+) -O- desmethyl-tramadol (M1) are agonists of the mu opioid receptor. (+) Tramadol also stimulates presinaptic release of serotonin and inhibits serotonin reuptake whereas (-) tramadol inhibits norepinephrine reuptake. Thus tramadol enhances inhibitory effects on pain transmission both by opioid and monoaminergic mechanisms"
Fred, you know dogs don't believe drugs work, therefore they do not. Simple.