Flanagan, Hasay, Huddle, and Linden ALL set to race Boston 2018!

If there are no top tier east african runners in the race the pace could be slow, as a result all these runners mentioned could be in the mix for the win late in the race.

I know there are no pacers in Boston, but they need some runners willing to go for it from the start for this to develop into a fast race with fast times. Also the weather will be a major factor as always at Boston in determining the finishing times.

Shoebacca wrote:

With a 2:19:59 course record it is hard to imagine Hasay will run 2:21.

How much money does this leave available for international talent?

This is a big pay day for Shalane. Also, if she plays her cards right, she could make a splash in the WMM standings this year.

Without a tail wind we know its not a fast course. Hancock is paying big appearance money to build a strong American field. I would guess they will not invite the number of African elites as past years and if they come it won't be with appearance dollars. Prestige and glory of being the Boston champion at stake here. Top American means nothing outside prize money bonus.

Paris, London will benefit with internationals. There will be a slew of women outside of Boston this spring I predict sub 2:20.

Always a dilemma wrote:

I think Hasay stole Desi's sole last year in Boston. She just seems different now. I still will pull for her but she lost the spark. Last year she was talking big but couldn't back it up.

Is it because it was sticking out of her shoes, like Kipchoge in Berlin 2015 (which would be a nice thing to do) or out of malice?

NOP Skeptic wrote:

Hohojolly wrote:

Flanagan's time of 2:21:14 occurred on 09/28/14, or 3 years and 7 months ago. Hasay's all time second place of 2:20:57 occurred 2 months ago.

Yes, and Flanagan's NYC WIN taking down a woman who ran 2:17 8 months ago, occurred a couple weeks ago

What's your point?

She took down the Mary because that Mary was being sick at the time. Her winning time of 2:26 hardly indicated she was in sub 2:20 shape or anything close to it, while Jordan's 2:20 off a crazy pace does.

3hr-marathoner wrote:

Lords of Cinder wrote:

Hasay, Hall, Linden, Flanagan

There's a lot of love on here for Hasay and I get that she's talented but can someone explain the reasoning behind considering her the USA's best female marathoner? After all, Huddle has significantly better track credentials and Flanagan, Linden and Cragg have accomplished more in the marathon.

Track credentials has little bearing on the road.

in her second marathon, and she has already stood on the podium twice and run the second fastest marathon time. Considering her relative lack of experience It's quite an accomplishment in the marathon and so impressive that she should be the betting favorite.

In fairness New York is a historically slow course -worth some say 3 minutes-also it was tactical so they were not going for time. Not sure why people keep comparing PR’s from wildly different courses and situations.

George213 wrote:

She took down the Mary because that Mary was being sick at the time. Her winning time of 2:26 hardly indicated she was in sub 2:20 shape or anything close to it, while Jordan's 2:20 off a crazy pace does.

yeah sorry this is incorrect. nobody wins new york or beats (even a slightly weakened) mary keitany without being in monster shape. it was not a race for time.

sanchobaile wrote:

George213 wrote:

She took down the Mary because that Mary was being sick at the time. Her winning time of 2:26 hardly indicated she was in sub 2:20 shape or anything close to it, while Jordan's 2:20 off a crazy pace does.

yeah sorry this is incorrect. nobody wins new york or beats (even a slightly weakened) mary keitany without being in monster shape. it was not a race for time.

Mary wasn't just slightly weakened, but totally not herself, or she would just run away from the pack halfway through like she had done last year.

Nyminute wrote:

In fairness New York is a historically slow course -worth some say 3 minutes-also it was tactical so they were not going for time. Not sure why people keep comparing PR’s from wildly different courses and situations.

You're correct. Still, it's hard to extrapolate a sub-2:20 from her NYC race.

sanchobaile wrote:

George213 wrote:

She took down the Mary because that Mary was being sick at the time. Her winning time of 2:26 hardly indicated she was in sub 2:20 shape or anything close to it, while Jordan's 2:20 off a crazy pace does.

yeah sorry this is incorrect. nobody wins new york or beats (even a slightly weakened) mary keitany without being in monster shape. it was not a race for time.

No, you are wrong. Shalane would never ever beat Mary if she was healthy and feeling good.

Jordan will embarrass Shalane.

What's Allie Keifer's next race?

lord Eric wrote:

1. Hassay 2:23

2.Huddle 2:23 +30

3. Hall 2:25 PR

4.Taylor 2:28

5. Linden 2:29

6. Flanagan DNF or 2:30+

What about Emily Sisson? I wonder when she gives the marathon a go?

If Allie O. can stay healthy she will be in the mix in a couple of years.

Katie B. wrote:

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No, you are wrong. Shalane would never ever beat Mary if she was healthy and feeling good.

So? That's true for all the American women. That's true for most of the women in the world.

I believe Jordan has a shot at Mary.

Hasay has 10 years on Flanagan, and is entering her prime, while Flanagan is leaving her prime (notwithstanding NYC win). Therefore its not surprising that many people, including me, would bet on Hasay to beat Flanagan in Boston.

However, 10 years from now the tables will be turned. Hasay (if still running) will be leaving her prime, while some young 26-year old (Tuohy? Lane? or someone none of us has heard of yet) will be entering her prime. These boards will have the same conversation then, as now.

Just like we never saw an Ali-Tyson, Woods-Nicklaus, Hall-Rupp pairings in their primes, it will always make for good conversation.

broken arrow wrote:

lord Eric wrote:

1. Hassay 2:23

2.Huddle 2:23 +30

3. Hall 2:25 PR

4.Taylor 2:28

5. Linden 2:29

6. Flanagan DNF or 2:30+

What about Emily Sisson? I wonder when she gives the marathon a go?

If Allie O. can stay healthy she will be in the mix in a couple of years.

Sooner than Allie O., I would say that Molly Seidel could fly well in the marathon.

Katie B. wrote:

sanchobaile wrote:

yeah sorry this is incorrect. nobody wins new york or beats (even a slightly weakened) mary keitany without being in monster shape. it was not a race for time.

No, you are wrong. Shalane would never ever beat Mary if she was healthy and feeling good.

Jordan will embarrass Shalane.

Jordan will beat Shalane. She won't embarrass her because there's nothing embarrassing about having a swan song at your hometown race.