Killian Jornet's Everest summit might not have happened

George213 wrote:

Karl Hungus wrote:

Maybe this is just me, but if I somehow got to the top of Everest I'm going to take photos and video and scream like a little girl in delight. The article is really damning.

He's not climbing up for scenery, but the record.

Exactly, which is why on every other record attempt he had GPS data, exact times and photos. When this was just about the record, why would he suddenly not have accurate records or photos? Something is rotten in the state of Norway.

A bit from Kilian and Ian Corless on this here:

https://iancorless.org/2017/12/10/kilian-jornet-everest-speed-records-questions-raised-and-a-response/

A big fan............. wrote:

From what I understood, Killian really didn't even know if he made it to the summit because of the conditions. He also didn't break the record he was shooting for because of illness. His second attempt basically created a record which was hyped up by his sponsors more than Killian. I dont think Killian was happy at all with his "performance" and I wouldn't be surprised if he goes back for another attempt. Killian is one of the most gracious bad a55 skier, mountain runner and competitor in the world.

Check out some of the insane videos he has been posting on youtube!! Also he has been winning 100 milers for 8 or 9 years now as well as countless other races at other distances. His reputation is unquestionable.

this is what I had heard as well. Still fishy.

I will definitely be listening to Ian Corliss on the 15th.

Based on the info he provided Ian Corless, he has pictures from the summit. They haven't been released because of movie rights or something. If that turns out to be true, case closed, Killian vindicated. I don't think this dude has every given anyone a reason to question his integrity. He's attempted plenty of things and failed, and he's always admitted it. A couple weeks before Everest, he was trying to do something similar on a neighboring peak, at night, solo. He came back down and said he didn't make it.

A big fan............. wrote:

From what I understood, Killian really didn't even know if he made it to the summit because of the conditions.

So, BOTH times he didn't know if he got to the summit? How did you come to this understanding?

Certainly not from his blog:

First summit:

"Up to 7,700m I felt really good and was making progress as planned but then I started to feel unwell, probably from stomach virus. From then on I made slow progress and had to keep stopping to recover. I finally reached the summit at midnight", Jornet said.

Second summit:

“I’m so happy to have made the summit again! Today I felt good although it was really windy so it was hard to move fast. I think summiting Everest twice in one week without oxygen opens up a new realm of possibilities in alpinism and I’m really happy to have done it”

EJD wrote:

A bit from Kilian and Ian Corless on this here:

https://iancorless.org/2017/12/10/kilian-jornet-everest-speed-records-questions-raised-and-a-response/

that response reeks of bullshit.

Corless is a self confessed fanboy so im not expecting too much from the interview.

probably just more flimsy excuses and zero actual proof.

Seriously, he's an ultra runner. What did you all expect?

Killian Jornet's own GPS watch data shows that he didn't even reach the top of Everest as can clearly be seen by looking at the satellite view in the map. He stopped quite far off from the top going by the lat long coordinates and simply headed back down the mountain. If I had known that this was what Jornet was giving as proof to claim his records, I would have raised noise:

https://www.strava.com/activities/1022238076

Yeah RIGHT man. So him and all his sponsors showed up and video taped him doing these records on a different mountain and everyone was in on a big scam? That is the dumbest thing i've ever heard, it's well documented tons of people saw it happen and there is footage of it. SMH, typical LRC bullcrap jealousy.

Hey bud,

I just saw your post you are spamming in my mountaineering FB group linking to this. I hate to break it to you but I worked in Everest Base camp when he set the record and literally witnessed it go down. There were several photographers that day and i'm sure there are photographs floating around that will be released if they haven't already. Also why would one of the most successful mountain runners of all time even want to fake something like this?

-ted

Yeah Right wrote:

That is the dumbest thing i've ever heard, it's well documented tons of people saw it happen and there is footage of it. SMH, typical LRC bullcrap jealousy.

except that its extremely poorly documented by any standard (even compared to his own records of other summits), no one saw it happen and the footage has not been made public.

otherwise you are spot on.

LOL. Kilian Jornet rossied Mt. Everest.

bkrunner wrote:

They haven't been released because of movie rights or something.

"or something?" Is that an exact quote? Release the photos. This sounds like a big story in the making.

I looked at his strava, the GPS data is all bugged out from 30 hours of usage, you mean to tell me you are saying he didn't do it legit and it says he ran a 1 minute mile at one point? the data is obviously bugged

Bugged out fam wrote:

I looked at his strava, the GPS data is all bugged out from 30 hours of usage, you mean to tell me you are saying he didn't do it legit and it says he ran a 1 minute mile at one point? the data is obviously bugged

The pace graph on Jornet's Strava record is whacked up because of Strava proprietary smoothing. I downloaded the GPX data and plotted the speeds myself with a 10 second moving average and the speeds are normal for the entire hike, no super human speeds. From what I see doing a better job of processing the data compared to Strava, Jornet's watch was recording properly the whole time.

Here is what Jornet's speed plot looks like when I process the GPX data myself with a 10-second smoothing instead of relying on the whacked up Strava plot:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HNmJZLrI2PhHxNERBcGBpspLcW0ODcpp/view?usp=sharing

It is entirely normal. Also, from the GPX data, I can see that his watch was set to record data every 10 seconds with the longest span between two data points being 11 seconds. There is no missing data. Jornet's own watch data clearly proves he didn't reach the top of Everest:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1B56RgWe8xzxmHu-kqR8mBkq3SCUtGQiU

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1slJ4u2a8FYG4FuV9z_fkc7xi7cZe8OyC

Boom goes the dynamite!

To make things clear about why Jornet's own GPS watch data shows him as not having submitted Everest, I have taken a couple of screenshots. The first is from Adrian Ballinger's summit of Everest from May 26, 2017. The second is from Jornet's Everest #1 from May 20, 2017.

Notice that Ballinger reaches the true Everest summit that is a fair distance further away from where Jornet stopped and turned around. I have marked the true summit on Jornet's screenshot with a blue X and circle around it.

In addition, Ballinger records a reasonable maximum elevation of 28,931 feet for his summit of Everest compared to only 28,198 feet for Jornet. It is plainly clear that Jornet did not reach the summit of Everest like he claims he did. The evidence clearly shows that Jornet stopped quite far away from the real summit.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1zFxoY1wMbLV23_2dCEnGLcPSvo0WX3ZS

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1L5TfjQ9Vk9PbrLnpAmA5QJneiF-mgwg8