Can we really say Kipchoge is clean? Why is he clean but Kennissa or Farah isn't?
Willis for definite. I would put him and Cram as the two fastest 1500-m runners without doping
Can we really say Kipchoge is clean? Why is he clean but Kennissa or Farah isn't?
Willis for definite. I would put him and Cram as the two fastest 1500-m runners without doping
Lebron James
Myself
Gotta bee wrote:
crosscounts wrote:
You must have an extremely specific definition of athletic. Is Tom Bray the greatest athlete of all time? I don't know. Is he one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time? Without a doubt. Yes the Patriots have always had a great O line but they have always had Brady too. You cannot pick and choose like that.
The Patriots are great.
Tom Brady is great.
define great o-line, one that lets their qb hit more than any other o-line?
Brady gets hit because he can't move, his lack of athleticism is the issue. When he does get hit, he turtle and falls to the ground which is how he has avoided more injury.
Bo Jackson
MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
Top 5 List:
1. Rich Froning
2. Ragen Chastain
3. Parvaneh Moayedi
4. Larry Macon
5. Jared Lorenzen
Dane #1 fan wrote:
Damn good list but you left on Dane Douchenberger
He's definitely top 10, but how in the world do you put him over the Fathlete Ragen or the machines that are PM and Larry Macon? Others to include in the top 10 include Mike Rossi, Dr. Kip Litton, Gheorge Muresan, the Undertaker.
Oprah Winfrey
Walter Cronkite
Weird Al Yankovic
Probably nobody you can 100% guarantee. But if we are talking running then Ryan Hall, Sara Hall this era, past era, Joan Benoit, Bill Rodgers, Ron Hill, just to name a few.
O.J. Simpson. The greatest NFL player of all time.
he has a point wrote:
The only possible answer wrote:
Me.
The best guaranteed clean athlete is yourself
I was going to say this too, but it's not really true. You are responsible for doping substances in your body no matter how it gets there. So if you eat some contaminated food or supplements, that's considered doping. Now, like most, I believe that a lot of those claims are just cover, but that still leaves some that truly tested positive that way.
I don't really take any supplements, so that leaves me with a lower chance of taking contaminated supplements. But last year, I was taking some Vitamin D, because I live far north where I might not see the sun much all winter. But I didn't check the WADA website to check on the legality of Vitamin D (assume it's OK, but if you were really in the testing pool, you'd check EVERYTHING that you take). Plus what you buy might not be what's stated on the bottle due to either scams or contamination.
I can’t believe we had to read about Tom Brady, Larry Bird, Kobe Bryant and a bunch of unknown runners before someone mentioned LeBron. In terms of sheer athletic ability, no contest. Size, speed, vertical, strength, agility, etc., plus the intangibles. Has been playing at a top level in a major sport for years, with no suspicious changes in performance.
Ben True
are you serious? he's the single most popular athlete in america. he's 1. definitely using drugs 2. definitely protected 3. has resources out the ass. He's using every recovery tool he can get his hands on, illegal AND legal. If lebron was found to be doping(and let's also say that the NBA and his sponsors wouldn't try to bury it), that would place the NBA in a terrible spotlight
Andre DeGrasse, Allyson Felix, Delilah Muhammad, Nia Ali. Amalie Iuel, ...
The only possible answer wrote:
Me.
+1. Anyone faster than you is a drug cheat and anyone slower than you don't care about the time.
The most popular meme on this board. Who can possibly disagree?
MountainRunnerrr wrote:
Ben True
It took three pages to get to this most obvious answer? The guy believes beetroot juice is cheating. It must be him.
F.U.
Frank Shorter. Olympic Marathon champ -- got screwed by the Germans in Munich. Has done a *ton* to try to clean up the sport.
The last Russian who was banned is the best and the cleanest.
Me. Anybody better than me is obviously doping.