Ran 2,300 meters tonight at 800ish pace (slightly faster) broken up into segments of 400m, 200m and 100m. This is part of my new training technique of focusing on a high volume of fast work and not worrying about time between intervals and never doing ball-busting workouts. I am thinking that as a goal I should try to hit 10,000 meters of total 800m pace intervals in a week. Never shorter than 100m and never longer than 600m. Goal is to go from 1:56 last summer to 1:54 early next year.
What do you think about this training?
Pointless?
Fierce?
Recipe for injury?
Genius?
Running over 10,000 meters at 800m pace over the course of 1 week
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That is a horrible idea to train for 800, but might be ok for 5000 if you survive without injury.
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Have you learned nothing from when you posted on my sub 4:24 mile thread last year and everyone explained to you that your 8x200m and your three pace workouts per week were idiotic?
Of course long term this plan is trash. You may get some good results early on. I say go for it but keep us updated. Run a time trial every couple weeks. You won't be able to sustain this but I'm interested nonetheless. -
ThatAverageRunner wrote:
Have you learned nothing from when you posted on my sub 4:24 mile thread last year and everyone explained to you that your 8x200m and your three pace workouts per week were idiotic?
That's exactly what I'm not doing. Thanks for noticing. -
Look I'm not so sure that you need to do 10ks worth of 800m pace reps.
When is your next 800m race? -
Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:
Look I'm not so sure that you need to do 10ks worth of 800m pace reps.
When is your next 800m race?
None planned yet -
Stupid and will get injured. Need to put in that base and over the winter of 100 miles a week.
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Day1 - 2x 500m @ 800 pace , 2mile jog
Day2- 3x 400m @ 800 pace, 2 mile jog
Day3- 4x300 @ 400 pace, 2mile jog
Day4- 5x [email protected] all out, 2 mile jog
Day5- [email protected] out, 2mile jog
Day6-10 miles.
Day7- 1 hour swim
repeat .
Do 8 weeks of this , say hello to a new PR. -
One week?
You can do 50 X 200 at 800 pace in one day. It's only like 6 miles. -
day 1 and 2 would alone would have him in the fetal position wanting for dear life to quit after 2 or 3 weeks. Those are ball busting 800m workouts designed to peak for the 800m, unless you're talking about a 10-15 minute rest between reps and even then that would be tremendously grueling and painful to do
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If you do too much anaerobic too far from a race you'll wear yourself out. I did fast 150s with like 50m off when sharpening for an 800m.
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Online Coach 2018 wrote:
Day1 - 2x 500m @ 800 pace , 2mile jog
Day2- 3x 400m @ 800 pace, 2 mile jog
Day3- 4x300 @ 400 pace, 2mile jog
Day4- 5x [email protected] all out, 2 mile jog
Day5- [email protected] out, 2mile jog
Day6-10 miles.
Day7- 1 hour swim
repeat .
Do 8 weeks of this , say hello to a new PR.
This is crazy. -
^ those low volume repeats are a lot better than 10,000 meters at race pace.
But what really matters is just getting faster. Sprint! Drills, flying 30's, plyometrics. Move that 400m pb downward and the 800 will follow. -
Bad Wigins wrote:
But what really matters is just getting faster. Sprint! Drills, flying 30's, plyometrics. Move that 400m pb downward and the 800 will follow.
But that online coach 2018 chap publishing a program with anaerobic sprint work each day for five days is a recipe for a disaster. I don't know about you but I am not made of glue & rubber. I work on a one day hard, two days aerobic, cycle. Improving speed comes from frequency and stride length, the first improves with drills, the latter improves with hills/steps and gym work also range of motion exercises. -
stop trolling, leave letsrun, and go do something with your life instead of being dead weight/space in society
definition of letsrun troll = jamin lives at home in parents basement -
you have 0% chance of running this with or without your retarded plan, this is just retarded
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I think that you are onto something. Why did you decide to pick 10,000 meters? I would recommend that you do the total volume based off of total weekly mileage. For an example, many top-level African runners are sure to do 30% of their week training volume dedicated to race-effort work (fartleks, tempos, etc).
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Didn’t you post about having a stress fracture recently and you couldn’t train for the 5k? Or is there a Lsland version of you too?
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"I recall somewhere on these boards (so take this with a grain of salt) that one of Kipketer's favortie workouts was 50x100m (don't know the pace) which sounds like an Igloi/Schul/Gray workout."
(from this thread: http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=2337684)
I've done sets of 10 x 100 at 800m pace with standing rests of 30 to 40 seconds. Sometimes 3 sets and sometimes 4 sets. Not sure what would happen if I did that 2 or 3x a week for several months, though.