just communicate that your not interested
they appreciate that
just communicate that your not interested
they appreciate that
I just had a real life experience on this subject an individual I recruited at a past coaching position (he never told me that he was never interested in that college) has applied to be the assistant SID at my current school. If he is the top candidate he will get the job, but if it comes down to a tie his lack of professionalism will cost him the job.
...,.... wrote:
Ghosting texts is not rude. Anyone who communicates regularly by email or text gets it. If they don’t, they are dinosaurs and I wouldn’t worry about it.
Total non-issue.
Guess who's mostly doing the hiring/decision making if the OP has anything to do with the running world from here on out? Those dinosaurs. As a millennial (barely depending on the definition)...I get it...but millennials aren't making the big decisions yet...
Real World Facts wrote:
NCAA DI P5 Recruiting Coordinator wrote:
This person clearly isn't a college coach. And clearly isn't in the real world. I'm not saying you HAVE to politely tell them you're not interested or your life will be ruined. But for the very minimal effort...the payoff could well be worth it. I remember every good prospect that "ghosted" me after we had a lengthy recruiting process going. I remember them for being immature and unprofessional. Not the end of the world for a 17 year old kid...they have time to grow up. And not the end of the world for coaches you never really had an extensive conversation going with. But the ones that take this brief moment to do so make a VERY good impression (and I DEFINITELY remember them) & shows they likely have the character to go far in this world. Four to five years is a short time...
Also, BTW, a brief response will probably save you time in the long run...us coaches are paid to be persistent with recruits. 75% of us will stop contacting you once you tell us to stop. And those that don't? Then block these idiots :).
You are right - I'm not a college coach. I work in the real world with actual adults reporting to me and others reporting to them. Short of sending child porn to a college coach how someone may have dealt with unwanted texts from strangers means less than nothing to me when hiring or evaluating job candidates.
Tell me why an interaction with a college track recruiting coordinator bears any resemblance to anything that happens after college? There is no network, it's 4 and done. It's not like they are going to ask for a reference for an accounting job.
You are the one who isn't in the real world. Nobody cares about your grudges and butt hurt feelings from being ghosted because you have zero potential impact on their lives.
This guy has excellent advice if you know with 100% certainty that you'll never cross paths with any of these people again. Follow it if you are absolutely sure you'll never want to transfer from the school you choose, the school you choose won't hire the coach you didn't get back to when the current coach inevitably leaves, that your coach didn't put in a good word for you to that coach, that the coach you didn't get back to doesn't want to recruit future athletes from your school, and most importantly, if you know for absolute certain that you want nothing to do with the running world the moment you graduate.
Again, not the end of the world...kids do it all the time. But the professional & mature impression it makes when the kid takes an extra minute to respond goes further than they can probably imagine right now.
If a coach is upset 4 years after you ghost them and they are on a hiring committee for some job you apply to consider it a favor they don't hire you.
There is a great deal of great advice here from my perspective. There is also a good amount of crap. My advice would be, from someone who coached/recruited in college for 24 years and now work in the "real world"; treat the college coach/recruiter as you would want to be treated.
If you want to be strung along, then string them along or hide behind a ghost text. If you want the college coaches to be upfront and honest with you, then do the same. Good Luck with the process/
It doesn't matter one bit what these people think of you. They become your competitors. An opposing coach hating your guts, which BTW won't happen because they won't remember you, will have zero effect on your life. The running world is small, but utterly meaningless once you leave it. Which you will the day after your last track meet senior year.[/quote]
Yeah you’re wrong. One coach saw me at the nationals banquet and instantly said good luck tomorrow and my hair has been dyed sooo... better to be kind and respectful than burn bridges down because they’re your “competitors”
Shot blocker wrote:
So my parents made me fill out a bunch of recruiting questionaires last summer and all these coaches keep contacting me. I respond to them and then realize I’m not interested in their school or program at all I then block their number without explaining anything. How rude/unprofessional is this? Will they remember this if I see them at meets in the future? I mean it’s not like I visited the schools or anything. Mostly just exchanging text messages
Young child, learn how to deal with the real world. Take 60 seconds and send a nice text explaining that you are not interested at this time. It's not a hassle. If this is too much for you, you're going to struggle learning to deal with people outside of your high school bubble you live in.
If you're asking how rude it is, it's very rude. We live in a world now where you can just ignore messages from people, but if this guy was speaking to you in real life, you'd have to respond. This isn't about a coach/athlete etiquette, this is about being a decent, responsible human being that is mature enough to communicate with other humans.
Trinidaddies wrote:
It doesn't matter one bit what these people think of you. They become your competitors. An opposing coach hating your guts, which BTW won't happen because they won't remember you, will have zero effect on your life. The running world is small, but utterly meaningless once you leave it. Which you will the day after your last track meet senior year.
Yeah you’re wrong. One coach saw me at the nationals banquet and instantly said good luck tomorrow and my hair has been dyed sooo... better to be kind and respectful than burn bridges down because they’re your “competitors”[/quote]
What does this have to do with anything? That’s a total non event.
Who are you people that think ghosting a potential coach is not only rude but will have any effect whatsoever later on? The strawmen are flying!
Actually... it is rude. Regularity of communication has no bearing on the issue. Maturity does
...,.... wrote:
Ghosting texts is not rude. Anyone who communicates regularly by email or text gets it. If they don’t, they are dinosaurs and I wouldn’t worry about it.
Total non-issue.
Coaches News Network wrote:
Actually... it is rude. Regularity of communication has no bearing on the issue. Maturity does
...,.... wrote:
Ghosting texts is not rude. Anyone who communicates regularly by email or text gets it. If they don’t, they are dinosaurs and I wouldn’t worry about it.
Total non-issue.
It’s not rude in a professional setting. Or even close.
And while I hate to be rude, I think you need a dose: college track coach is not an important job and is irrelevant to nearly every other pursuit on earth. It’s even less relevant when the subject is high school kids who don’t even run for you. Your advice is worth the same as a weirdo on the street.
....,... wrote:
[quote]Coaches News Network wrote:
And while I hate to be rude, I think you need a dose: college track coach is not an important job and is irrelevant to nearly every other pursuit on earth. It’s even less relevant when the subject is high school kids who don’t even run for you. Your advice is worth the same as a weirdo on the street.
Wow - I'm not a college coach, but this caught my eye. Coaches may not be curing cancer, but they might be teaching successful habits to those who will. There are a million worthwhile professions including no profession at all. The bottom line is treat others with respect. From your post it looks like you have some work to do young one.
A. You're not that important.
B. You're acting like a jerk, which makes you even less desirable as a recruit.
Good luck. Take that attitude everywhere, you'll be lucky if anyone wants you.
This guy is such a troll. It has nothing to do with the job or the situation, it's about how you treat people. Your ability to handle a situation with class and dignity. You are clearly a complete tool, but that doesn't mean you need to advise other people to act like jerks as well.
A response is always polite. It's a good habit that people will always appreciate.
This is not some random person he is communicating with. This is essentially business. And in business, not responding would never be appropriate.
mc wrote:
....,... wrote:
[quote]Coaches News Network wrote:
And while I hate to be rude, I think you need a dose: college track coach is not an important job and is irrelevant to nearly every other pursuit on earth. It’s even less relevant when the subject is high school kids who don’t even run for you. Your advice is worth the same as a weirdo on the street.
Wow - I'm not a college coach, but this caught my eye. Coaches may not be curing cancer, but they might be teaching successful habits to those who will. There are a million worthwhile professions including no profession at all. The bottom line is treat others with respect. From your post it looks like you have some work to do young one.
First let’s establish this: anyone who is even moderately busy in an important job ignores unwanted emails and texts all the time. It’s not rude. It’s the same as ignoring telemarketers. The people sending the messages don’t take it personally and move on. So spare me the whining about treating people with respect - the OP isn’t doing anything wrong. If you have the time and inclination to reply to every message you receive, more power to you.
Second - not all jobs are important. If college track coaches all disappeared tomorrow the world would be just fine. That’s not to say there aren’t great people doing the work, but the work itself is NOT important. It’s a luxury to merely live in a world where people make a living telling other people how fast to run, let alone you being the person who makes that living.
Either way is fine. You can either ignore the coaches or respond, it makes no difference. At the end of the day you are not going to that coaches schools so there should be no hard feelings. I find it even less professional to hold a grudge against a high school kid because they decided to not respond to you. And if someone doesnt hire you in the future because of this then you dont want to work for them anyway
lolzzz wrote:
A. You're not that important.
B. You're acting like a jerk, which makes you even less desirable as a recruit.
Good luck. Take that attitude everywhere, you'll be lucky if anyone wants you.
He doesn’t want to be recruited by these coaches. Presumably he texts the coaches he wants to recruit him. LOLZ!!!!!!
RealWorldFacts: You are a bad person.