Normal People try to run at Mo Farahs 5k pace - Iconic

fragile ego that needs feeding wrote:

RejectRunner wrote:

I think you don't realize how fast a runner you actually are. A 51 second 400m highschool runner is gifted.

He knows that, man. His hope was to have people tell him how good he actually was (which he knows). It looks like some of you took the bait, and he succeeded.

Sorry for making it about me. My bad, man... It's a cool concept, seeing how long people can keep up with an elite runner's pace on a treadmill, which is easier than running on a regular track, right?

They should do more of these: Bolt, WVN, Shalane

800000nojoke wrote:

Not many people can run 2:01 in the 800m.

Even for fast college guys out of season that isn’t easy.

If it was easy people would be jogging sub 4 and not many people jog sub 4’

I admit in high school that wasn’t insane but just last winter my friend who is 30 now...was a 14:00flat 5k guy and 4:06 miler in college is still very fit but couldn’t run 2:05 all out.

I can’t break 2:15 now and I ran 1:56 in high school. I’m still super fit I run sub 2:30 in the marathon but I can barely run a 2:30sec 800m.

There is no way I can run a 61 second quarter without an injury.

wtf?!? You can run 5:4x pace for 26 miles but can barely run 5:00 pace for 800m? No way

I can run somewhere in the low 2:20's maybe and am probably at 60 flat or so for 400m and I can't even break 20 for a 5k; is it possible to be that much of an endurance monster or have you just not touched on speed for a while? That's remarkable

I wish I was kidding. But I’m not.

I have no speed left. I wasn’t to slow when I was younger I think I ran 54 in the 400m, 1:56-57 800m, 4:20 miler. In high school.

I tried to get some speed back but no luck or at least it’s not easy.

I ran max effort 16:30 this summer in a 5k and then ran a 1/2 marathon the next week in 1:11:30.

I'd like to see a video of Mo Farah running as hard as he can for 12 minutes, 37 seconds to see if he can get to 4900 meters before his time is up. Or 26 minutes, 17 seconds to see if he can reach 9800 meters by then. Whatever KB was on to achieve those times, Mo's on that much and more.

I've run a 1:14 half marathon. My 400 PR is 65 secs. I'm sure I could not break 70 at the moment.

Your average non-running layperson has no conception of just how fast the elites run, or an understanding of what it takes to do that.

The morning after Al Salazar won the 1982 New York Marathon I was sitting in a lecture hall at my college, waiting for class to begin. A guy in the row behind me had watched the race in person, and was excitedly telling three girls sitting near him how impressive it was seeing Salazar run at 5-minute-mile pace for 26 straight miles. Then the guy clarified: "Actually, he ran UNDER 5 minutes per mile for 26 straight miles!"

One of his listeners said "Wow, that's really fast." Then she took a long drag on her cigarette -indoor smoking was still largely legal in those days- exhaled a plume of smoke, and said "I could probably only hold that pace for one or two miles."

Bruh

MurderDub wrote:

fragile ego that needs feeding wrote:

He knows that, man. His hope was to have people tell him how good he actually was (which he knows). It looks like some of you took the bait, and he succeeded.

Sorry for making it about me. My bad, man... It's a cool concept, seeing how long people can keep up with an elite runner's pace on a treadmill, which is easier than running on a regular track, right?

They should do more of these: Bolt, WVN, Shalane

BOLT?!?! WVN?!??! Now I know you're trolling Lmao

great video! 60 seconds is quite good for a recreational runner. I recently broke 3 hours in the marathon, so that would put me in the top 2% of marathon finishers (presumably a stronger group than all fun runners), for reference. I also have a soccer background, and used to be one of the faster guys. did a 400m time trial, just for fun, and ran 64 seconds. sure, I never trained for sprint/middle distances, and should be able to improve on that, but in any case that should give you some perspective.

My goal the next year is to run a mile at marathon WR pace. Full disclosure I’m gonna do in on a gentle downhill bike path. I can live with that asterix.a

RejectRunner wrote:

MurderDub wrote:

Sorry for making it about me. My bad, man... It's a cool concept, seeing how long people can keep up with an elite runner's pace on a treadmill, which is easier than running on a regular track, right?

They should do more of these: Bolt, WVN, Shalane

BOLT?!?! WVN?!??! Now I know you're trolling Lmao

You don't think it would be funny to see people falling off the treadmill after two steps trying to achieve the pace necessary to run 9.59? You don't think that placing a fast, highly athletic male on a treadmill and having him hit that second 100 when it revs up to 9.8 (WVN's 100-200 split during his WR) just to see what happens wouldn't be entertaining?

I'm not really trolling, just trying to make good reality TV. Track needs publicity.

I think the people that really fast have no idea how slow the majority of the population is. I've played D1 college tennis and have mostly fast twitch muscle fibers and could not break 60 seconds in the 400m. Could run a 25 second 400 meters, though.

The best illustration for the lay person would be trying to run WR Marathon pace. After a few seconds and failing, they'd then have the reality sink in on them that there is someone on Earth that ran that pace for over 2 hours.

Oh Please wrote:

The best illustration for the lay person would be trying to run WR Marathon pace. After a few seconds and failing, they'd then have the reality sink in on them that there is someone on Earth that ran that pace for over 2 hours.

Agreed.

thegreathun wrote:

Could run a 25 second 400 meters, though.

not too shabby

Oh Please wrote:

The best illustration for the lay person would be trying to run WR Marathon pace. After a few seconds and failing, they'd then have the reality sink in on them that there is someone on Earth that ran that pace for over 2 hours.

Here you go

thegreathun wrote:

I think the people that really fast have no idea how slow the majority of the population is. I've played D1 college tennis and have mostly fast twitch muscle fibers and could not break 60 seconds in the 400m. Could run a 25 second 400 meters, though.

I am training for 56 at age 50. 1.5 sec to go and a good year left. Ran a 51 in high school, but was a miler -2miler. College, steepke/5k.

Never ran an official 400 when in peak shape, but 24sec 200's were manageable in practice on occassion. So maybe I could have run low 49.

I did run very close to 50 flat a few years later in local meet.

I feel quick for my age but nothing special with 50 year olds out there running 50!

Keep in mind that they are on a treadmill, not running through air/wind.

67s-68s 400m can be a difference of a second per lap with or without drafting. They're running just under 62s per 400m, but are not fighting the wind. (And they can hold the bar in lost last few seconds of struggle). It would probably take a 63s-64s effort on a treadmill to match Farah's 23km/h speed on the track.

Measured on the bike in the wind or drafting (closest comparison for the still air of the treadmill), 22-23km per hour is a difference of 40 watts, which can be 10% savings of power (of the worlds best). (Although there is an effect of being pulled in the draft, not just blocking the headwind. Depends on the numbers, but several factors of the pull, the wind that does hit the shoulders or helmet, staying perfectly in the wind shadow or drifting forward/backward or side to side would skew things of course, compared to the indoor treadmill.

It's even worse for those of us who have trained hard and would still struggle to run more than a couple of laps at this pace.