Biggest factor of climate change is the way the sun behaves.
You are an absolute moron. I worked in at atmospheric chemistry lab and I can tell you with certainty that the sun has a very minor effect on short-term climate change like we are experiencing.
They can't predict the weather a week from now, they can't predict the weather in 100 years. Their studies have large margins of error and low statistical significance. Not saying we should stop all research but they don't have a single unifying, coherent theory the way we do about say gravitation for example. That allows to predict the orbit of objects with a very high precision and low margin of error.
I also think politics has tainted this subject beyond repair. Only the future will truly tell us.
Your math isn't very good. I would rather see the money stay in the country than ship off 2.5% of GDP to foreign countries of questionable allegiance where it would most likely be wasted or worse yet, provide a stimulus effect to their economies, worsening global climate change. Call me crazy.
It's fake but I wish it were real. Look up the earth's climate during the Eocene period. Palm trees and alligator fossils found clear up in Alaska and Canada! Now that's something I can get on board with!
You are an absolute moron. I worked in at atmospheric chemistry lab and I can tell you with certainty that the sun has a very minor effect on short-term climate change like we are experiencing.
Well I ran that lab, Jerry, and we both know the reason you don't work there any more is because you didn't do anything but sit around all day on Facebook and LRF
It's not whether you "think it's fake." It's more about when you notice global elites using it to promote nonsense like banning air travel, meat, internal combustion engines, and transhumanism.
A plain look at the global temperature graph (NASA's is linked) shows a few things that aren't hyped:
1) the "pre-industrial" zero point they keep mentioning wasn't the zero point. Temperature declined since global records started in 1880, until 1910.
2) a period of slight warming betwen 1910 and 1940 raised temperatures to slightly higher, for the first time, than they were in 1880.
3) and then they soared! Well no, actually they flattened out again for another 40 years, until about 1980.
4) suddenly in 1980 the graph finally takes off and decides to warm the Earth. The hype manages to alarmingly mention how most (nearly all) of the warming was since 1980, it leaves a big unanswered question: what was the warming waiting for during those first 100 years?
100 years of unrestricted use of coal, few if any restrictions on emissions, and suddenly in 1980 (right after the introduction of fuel-efficient compact cars and other anti-pollution measures) the warming is finally triggered. Not before, but after.
So anyhow, that 1980 to 2020 makes the whole graph look concave up, which looks a bit scary. But the segment itself has zero concavity. The graph has no consistent trends to predict how that slope might change in the future. It may go up, stay the same, or go down.
For that matter, there's no telling where the temperature was before 1880, but since it was dropping in 1880, it was probably higher before then.
It's not whether you "think it's fake." It's more about when you notice global elites using it to promote nonsense like banning air travel, meat, internal combustion engines, and transhumanism.
A plain look at the global temperature graph (NASA's is linked) shows a few things that aren't hyped:
1) the "pre-industrial" zero point they keep mentioning wasn't the zero point. Temperature declined since global records started in 1880, until 1910.
2) a period of slight warming betwen 1910 and 1940 raised temperatures to slightly higher, for the first time, than they were in 1880.
3) and then they soared! Well no, actually they flattened out again for another 40 years, until about 1980.
4) suddenly in 1980 the graph finally takes off and decides to warm the Earth. The hype manages to alarmingly mention how most (nearly all) of the warming was since 1980, it leaves a big unanswered question: what was the warming waiting for during those first 100 years?
100 years of unrestricted use of coal, few if any restrictions on emissions, and suddenly in 1980 (right after the introduction of fuel-efficient compact cars and other anti-pollution measures) the warming is finally triggered. Not before, but after.
So anyhow, that 1980 to 2020 makes the whole graph look concave up, which looks a bit scary. But the segment itself has zero concavity. The graph has no consistent trends to predict how that slope might change in the future. It may go up, stay the same, or go down.
For that matter, there's no telling where the temperature was before 1880, but since it was dropping in 1880, it was probably higher before then.
Another thing about 1980: that's almost exactly when the term "greenhouse effect" entered the popular discussion. That discussion quickly became a political issue.
The past 2 1/2 years have shown a nauseating display of corrupt "science" controlled by corporate and political interests. Powerful people can arrange for scientists to be able to investigate just the right things necessary to reach a predetermined conclusion. The burden is high to prove that this post-1980 surge was not influenced by confirmation bias.
I just wanted to chime in on this discussion about climate change. While I understand where you're coming from with the weather predictions and all, I have to say that I've definitely noticed some changes in the climate myself.
I don't really know enough about it. To make a decision on whether it's 'fake' or not I'd only be happy coming to a conclusion if I read around it and researched it properly, and looked at proper evidence. I don't want to form an opinion from what's in the media and various articles. I don't really have the time to spend doing all of that so basically I don't know. I'd imagine that it's very possible that the total change in human behaviour since the industrial revolution could have consequence for the planet, as it's such a marked change from what came before. But as to what that change would be and whether it would be temperatures rising and so on, I'm not sure.
Also we need to look at the overall picture. Where I live, there definitely has been a change over the last 10, 20 years. It is milder, less snow, winters are way less severe and are shorter, summers are longer and hotter. However, that doesn't mean 'climate change' is happening. That's just one location in the world, we need to look at the overall picture. Too often I think people use what's happening in one place to try to support the argument.
Global Warmists will never answer this question. For 4.6 billion years the Earth has gone through warming and cooling phases. We are currently in a warming phase. What happens when we enter into another cooling phase? Will you be claiming Global Cooling at that time or do you think the Earth will all of a sudden just not cool off again? The Earth WILL cool off again. What happens then?
Global Warmists will never answer this question. For 4.6 billion years the Earth has gone through warming and cooling phases. We are currently in a warming phase. What happens when we enter into another cooling phase? Will you be claiming Global Cooling at that time or do you think the Earth will all of a sudden just not cool off again? The Earth WILL cool off again. What happens then?
So you don't understand rate of change?
Climate change deniers never answer that question.
Pretending like what is happening now is the same thing as the natural warming and cooling phases of the Earth means you are either ignorant on the subject or being intentionally obtuse.
Global Warmists will never answer this question. For 4.6 billion years the Earth has gone through warming and cooling phases. We are currently in a warming phase. What happens when we enter into another cooling phase? Will you be claiming Global Cooling at that time or do you think the Earth will all of a sudden just not cool off again? The Earth WILL cool off again. What happens then?
So you don't understand rate of change?
Climate change deniers never answer that question.
Pretending like what is happening now is the same thing as the natural warming and cooling phases of the Earth means you are either ignorant on the subject or being intentionally obtuse.
You Global Warmists are obviously fairly unsophisticated as you used the term "Global Warming" for decades and only relatively recently began using the term "Climate Change." Did you not understand for all those years that the Earth would be cooling again? Why the change? The EPA had on their website "Global Warming" for decades but changed to Climate Change early this century because the Earth stopped warming after 1998. What were they going to do then? They looked silly.
Climate change deniers never answer that question.
Pretending like what is happening now is the same thing as the natural warming and cooling phases of the Earth means you are either ignorant on the subject or being intentionally obtuse.
You Global Warmists are obviously fairly unsophisticated as you used the term "Global Warming" for decades and only relatively recently began using the term "Climate Change." Did you not understand for all those years that the Earth would be cooling again? Why the change? The EPA had on their website "Global Warming" for decades but changed to Climate Change early this century because the Earth stopped warming after 1998. What were they going to do then? They looked silly.
Client change has been going on since the beginning of climate and will continue until earth is swallowed by the sun or something. What's fake, or created, is the hysteria caused by environmental wackos that they use to attempt to control people and dismantle the western economy.
1970's wackos - "we're causingglobal cooling, which will lead to a new ice age that will be catostrophic to humans and the planet. Luckily, we have the snake oil to fix it. It's hamstring the world economy with ridiculous energy saving measures and an attack on fossil fuels"
Normal people - "hey, it's climate change, been going on forever"
1990's wackos "we're causing massive global warming that will be catostrophic to humans and the planet. Luckily, we have the snake oil to fix it. It's hamstring the world economy with ridiculous energy saving measures and an attack on fossil fuels"
Normal people - "hey, it's climate change, been going on forever"
2000's Wackos - "it's not so much whether it's warming or cooling, it's that humans are causing climate change that will be catostrophic to humans and the planet. Luckily, we have the snake oil to fix it. It's hamstring the world economy with ridiculous energy saving measures and an attack on fossil fuels"
Normal people - "hey, it's climate change, been going on forever".
2000's wackos " "you're a climate change denier, I bet you think the earth is flat too"
Modern doomsayers have been predicting climate and environmental disaster since the 1960s. They continue to do so today. None of the apocalyptic predictions with due dates as of today have come true. What follows is a collect...
