Not Done Yet: Mary Cain Has Been Injured in 2017 - Planning On Racing Again in 2018

Those French! wrote:

frenchy mcfrench face wrote:

ennui

It's like the French have their own word for everything!

Yeah, but they don't have one for "entrepreneur."

Oh, wait...

aka depression?

She should have ran in college. Would be in much better position right now.

TrackCoach wrote:

it is easier to put on muscle by converting fat to muscle.

Um, what?

Maybe replacing wrote:

TrackCoach wrote:

it is easier to put on muscle by converting fat to muscle.

Um, what?

I feel sorry for anyone that has "TrackCoach" as their coach.

How is Alana Hadley doing by the way?

You would probably want to fix Tirunesh Dibaba's form too, right? Personally, I would not. And freshman Cain had very similar spinal rotation to Dibaba, as you can see they bring their hands up to nearly the exact same spot when running the same speed, both with a lot of crossover that people like yourself think is bad.https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/2012_Olympics_-_Womens_5000m_Dibaba_leading.jpg/270px-2012_Olympics_-_Womens_5000m_Dibaba_leading.jpg

TrackCoach wrote:

twisted bones wrote:

Her form was perfect for her imperfect structure. All of her idiosyncracies were to counterbalance the fact that her skeleton is not perfectly straight like those with great form.

You are crazy if you think a coach should not have tried to clean up her form. If you know anything about biomechanics, you should know that her arm carriage causes her upper torso to sway, which is not only wasted motion, but the muscles have to work harder to counterbalance the sway. With that said, as a young phenom competing against inferior athletes, you can get away with this bad form, but as Mary competes against better competition and has to run faster, everything matters.

I wish there were a way to keep discussions of minors (under 18) off these message boards. One of the big sources of "weight gain" is the weight of expectations that too much publicity places on these girls. (I also wish their parents would show more common sense as to the over-development of expectations, but apparently that's not possible).

follower wrote:

How is Alana Hadley doing by the way?

She'll figure it out someday

She swayed her way to 1:59 and 4:04.

Banana Bread wrote:

It is fun to have her back again.

She's not back. When she shows up on the starting line of a somewhat major domestic race she'll be back. At this point all we have is a simple non committal one liner from her agent.

Also notable that Judd didn't get on with the UK "system" and her comeback has happened since leaving the coaching setup foisted on her by her funding.

Seems she's decided to press on down her own path per not being in the UK "system":

Mr. Mann wrote:

I am happy to hear this! I think she will race well, and after a year of consistent training/racing she will shine again. Talent like that doesn't go away. And Mary Cain is exceptionally talented.

Actually it does. After her peak year its been a slow slide. She is not the only jr. woman that this has happened to you.

Can she be ok with just being another good elite and not the super jr. as she was propped up to be. Big pressure for a young person.

We have an aging 800/1500 women's group in the US. She could come around by Tokyo to make the team.

Mary Cain as a young teenager, 15 or 16 was a 1:59.xx 800m runner. It was almost a curse that she was better than 99% of her peers 1500m to 5000m. Winning margins tend to be slim in the 400/800. Running form is a huge coaching issue for all athletes 800m and shorter. Cain should have only been a 400/800 athlete through her teens and a 800/1500 athlete age twenty going forward. Cain got with Salazar. To a hammer, everything looks like a nail. To Alberto Salazar, nearly everyone is a potential 5000m to Marathon athlete.

Mr. Mann wrote:

Talent like that doesn't go away.

Of course it does......in 90% of cases in fact

Hope she just run any race soon.....wasted if she just retires......

Raysism wrote:

Let’s be real, please wrote:

See for yourself. About 6:45 into this video.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jgRe5Lar4Nk

I may be confused, but I think you are using this video as proof of her perfect form? Her form was never good, and it's not good in that video.

But man, that video does remind me of how good she used to be.

Hey Raysism, you have zero ability to analyze human movement. As other posters have mentioned her movement is perfect for her particular skeletal and biomechanical issues. Her overall movement is super smooth and efficient. Salazar knows just enough to get himself in trouble (in various ways as we have seen). Trussing Cain up in a horse riding harness to "improve her posture" was Salazar's daughter's idea one night at the dinner table (yes it was you can't make up sh*t like that).

Luckily Salazar didn't coach Geb.

unixxi wrote:

Hope she just run any race soon.....wasted if she just retires......

It’s June, she’s coming off a long injury cycle in a non-championship year. She’ll most likely hit some second tier races later this summer and try to compete for bigger meets in the winter to set herself up for next year when things actually matter. She’s been quoted herself saying that she’s going to race this year, she’s far from done.