Official 2017 NCAA XC Regional Discussion Thread - Find out who is dancing here

Is Mountain region update?

The link and site do not have live results.

How can a NCAA regional championship meet not have live results in the year 2017?? That should be a requirement to host!!

colorado 62

new mexico 70

Mountain results - womens

No alice wright for NM

did Colorado have a full squad?

Here is the projected women's field with only the West Region to come.

1 Michigan

2 Michigan State

3 Penn State

4 Villanova

5 Iowa State

6 Oklahoma State

7 Colorado

8 New Mexico

9 Providence

10 Dartmouth

11 Ole Miss

12 Georgia

13 Arkansas

14 Texas

15 North Carolina St.

16 Furman

17 Oregon

18 Stanford

19 San Francisco

20 Boise State

21 Wisconsin

22 Minnesota

23 Washington

24 BYU

25 Utah State

26 Eastern Kentucky

27 Syracuse

28 Columbia

29 Missouri

30 Virginia Tech

31 Louisville

Go Navy. I had a sense that Al Cantello's magic would work once again.

so we'll see whos smarter you all or fotrack

Gotta bee wrote:

so we'll see whos smarter you all or fotrack

Well considering, we've never gotten it wrong and they regularly do, I don't think it's a debate. It's not us - it's Bo Waggoner's computer program.

Real geeks might want to know the logic. Here it is.

Teams under consideration by points:

8 San Francisco

6 Utah State, Boise State

5 Minnesota, Wisconsin

2 BYU, Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky

1 Georgetown, Princeton, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Baylor, SMU, Florida State

0 Syracuse, Samford

Others with points: Washington (3), Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Air Force (1), Abilene Christian (1), Arizona (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Indiana (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), California (1), Duke (1), Utah (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)

19: San Francisco (#3 west) is selected, has no losses to teams remaining

Teams under consideration by points:

6 Utah State, Boise State

5 Minnesota, Wisconsin

3 Washington

2 BYU, Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky

1 Georgetown, Princeton, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Baylor, SMU, Florida State

0 Syracuse, Samford

Others with points: Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Air Force (1), Abilene Christian (1), Arizona (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), Indiana (1), California (1), Duke (1), Utah (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)

Breaking ties between Utah State, Boise State using head-to-head

Utah State loses head-to-head vs Utah State, is not selected (mountain_west_championships)

20: Boise State (#4 west) is selected, has no losses to teams remaining

Teams under consideration by points:

6 Utah State

5 Minnesota, Wisconsin

3 Washington

2 BYU, Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky

1 Georgetown, Princeton, California, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Baylor, SMU, Florida State

0 Syracuse, Samford

Others with points: Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Air Force (1), Abilene Christian (1), Arizona (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Indiana (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Utah (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)

Utah State not selected with push (gets in later on their own)

Breaking ties between Minnesota, Wisconsin using head-to-head

Minnesota loses head-to-head vs Minnesota, is not selected (louisville_classic, nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational, big_10_championships)

21: Wisconsin (#3 great_lakes) is selected, has losses to (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational) Washington; (big_10_championships) Minnesota;

Teams under consideration by points:

6 Minnesota

4 Washington

2 BYU, Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky

1 Georgetown, Princeton, California, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Indiana, Baylor, SMU, Florida State

0 Syracuse, Samford

Others with points: Utah State (6), Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Air Force (1), Abilene Christian (1), Arizona (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Utah (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)

22: Minnesota (#3 midwest) is selected, has losses to (nuttycombe_wisconsin_invitational) Washington;

Teams under consideration by points:

5 Washington

2 BYU, Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky

1 Georgetown, Princeton, California, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Indiana, Baylor, SMU, Florida State

0 Syracuse, South Dakota, Samford

Others with points: Utah State (6), Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Air Force (1), Abilene Christian (1), Arizona (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Utah (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)

23: Washington (#5 west) is selected, has losses to (dellinger_byu_v_washington) BYU;

Teams under consideration by points:

3 BYU

2 Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky

1 Georgetown, Princeton, California, Arizona, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Indiana, Baylor, SMU, Florida State

0 Syracuse, South Dakota, Samford

Others with points: Utah State (6), Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Air Force (1), Abilene Christian (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Utah (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)

24: BYU (#3 mountain) is selected, has losses to (byu_autumn_classic_utah_state_v_byu) Utah State; (adidas_di_pre_nationals) Utah State;

Teams under consideration by points:

8 Utah State

2 Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky

1 Utah, Georgetown, Princeton, California, Arizona, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Indiana, Baylor, SMU, Florida State

0 Syracuse, South Dakota, Samford

Others with points: Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Air Force (1), Abilene Christian (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)

25: Utah State (#4 mountain) is selected, has no losses to teams remaining

Teams under consideration by points:

2 Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky

1 Utah, Air Force, Georgetown, Princeton, California, Arizona, Virginia Tech, Eastern Michigan, Indiana, Baylor, SMU, Florida State

0 Syracuse, South Dakota, Samford

Others with points: Ohio State (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Abilene Christian (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Louisville (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Arizona State (1), Northern Arizona (1), Portland (1)

Breaking ties between Columbia, Missouri, Eastern Kentucky using head-to-head

No head-to-head tiebreaker for Columbia and Missouri

No head-to-head tiebreaker for Columbia and Eastern Kentucky

Missouri loses head-to-head vs Missouri, is not selected (adidas_di_pre_nationals)

Breaking ties between Columbia, Eastern Kentucky using common opponents

Common opponents are tied for Columbia, Eastern Kentucky (win percentages: 0, 0) (common opponents: Brown, Boston College, Wisconsin, Purdue, Virginia, Michigan, Iona, Minnesota, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Furman, UMass Lowell, Miami (Ohio), North Carolina St., Boise State)

Breaking ties between ['Columbia', 'Eastern Kentucky'] using highest place at regionals.

Broke tie by selecting Eastern Kentucky (highest regional finish).

26: Eastern Kentucky (#3 southeast) is selected, has losses to (louisville_classic) Northern Arizona;

Teams under consideration by points:

2 Columbia, Missouri

1 Utah, Air Force, Georgetown, Princeton, California, Arizona, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Eastern Michigan, Indiana, Baylor, SMU, Florida State

0 Syracuse, South Dakota, Samford

Others with points: Ohio State (2), Northern Arizona (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Abilene Christian (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Arizona State (1), Portland (1)

Breaking ties between Columbia, Missouri using head-to-head

No head-to-head tiebreaker for Columbia and Missouri

Breaking ties between Columbia, Missouri using common opponents

Common opponents are tied for Columbia, Missouri (win percentages: 0, 0) (common opponents: Brown, Boston College, Tulsa, Michigan, Minnesota, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Bradley, Eastern Michigan, Iona, UMass Lowell, Miami (Ohio), Iowa State)

Breaking ties between ['Columbia', 'Missouri'] using highest place at regionals.

Breaking ties between ['Columbia', 'Missouri'] using closest score to 2nd-place in region.

Could not break ties among Columbia, Missouri!

Manually broke tie by picking Columbia

27: Syracuse (#3 northeast) is selected, gives no points (pushed in)

28: Columbia (#4 northeast) is selected, has losses to (sam_bell_invitational) Indiana;

Teams under consideration by points:

2 Missouri, Indiana

1 Utah, Air Force, Georgetown, Princeton, California, Arizona, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Eastern Michigan, Baylor, SMU, Florida State

0 Yale, South Dakota, Samford

Others with points: Ohio State (2), Northern Arizona (2), Toledo (1), Brown (1), Wake Forest (1), Abilene Christian (1), Pittsburgh (1), Northwestern (1), Cornell (1), Dayton (1), Duke (1), Arizona State (1), Portland (1)

Breaking ties between Missouri, Indiana using head-to-head

No head-to-head tiebreaker for Missouri and Indiana

Breaking ties between Missouri, Indiana using common opponents

Common opponents are tied for Missouri, Indiana (win percentages: 0, 0) (common opponents: Brown, Boston College, Iowa, Tulsa, Northwestern, Michigan, Dayton, Minnesota, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Bradley, Ohio State, Eastern Michigan, UMass Lowell, Toledo, Penn State, Miami (Ohio), Iowa State)

Breaking ties between ['Missouri', 'Indiana'] using highest place at regionals.

Broke tie by selecting Missouri (highest regional finish).

29: Missouri (#4 midwest) is selected, has losses to (commodore_classic) Ohio State, Vanderbilt; (adidas_di_pre_nationals) Northern Arizona, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Ohio State, Duke, Arizona, Portland, Toledo, Abilene Christian, Northwestern, Wake Forest, Dayton, Arizona State, SMU;

Teams under consideration by points:

2 Arizona, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Indiana, SMU

1 Utah, Air Force, Georgetown, Princeton, California, Eastern Michigan, Baylor, Florida State

0 Yale, South Dakota, Bradley, Samford

Others with points: Ohio State (4), Northern Arizona (3), Toledo (2), Wake Forest (2), Abilene Christian (2), Northwestern (2), Dayton (2), Duke (2), Arizona State (2), Portland (2), Brown (1), Pittsburgh (1), Cornell (1), Vanderbilt (1)

Breaking ties between Arizona, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Indiana, SMU using head-to-head

Arizona loses head-to-head vs Arizona, is not selected (adidas_di_pre_nationals)

Arizona loses head-to-head vs Arizona, is not selected (adidas_di_pre_nationals)

No head-to-head tiebreaker for Arizona and Indiana

SMU loses head-to-head vs Arizona, is not selected (adidas_di_pre_nationals)

Louisville loses head-to-head vs Virginia Tech (most recent matchup), is not selected (louisville_classic, adidas_di_pre_nationals, acc_championships, southeast)

No head-to-head tiebreaker for Virginia Tech and Indiana

SMU loses head-to-head vs Virginia Tech, is not selected (adidas_di_pre_nationals)

No head-to-head tiebreaker for Louisville and Indiana

SMU loses head-to-head vs Louisville, is not selected (adidas_di_pre_nationals)

No head-to-head tiebreaker for Indiana and SMU

Breaking ties between Virginia Tech, Indiana using common opponents

Common opponents are tied for Virginia Tech, Indiana (win percentages: 0, 0) (common opponents: Minnesota, Illinois, UMass Lowell, Vanderbilt, Toledo, Miami (Ohio), North Carolina St., Brown, Boston College, Wisconsin, Dayton, Michigan, Virginia, Florida State, Furman, Ohio State, UAB, Syracuse, Northwestern, Purdue, Kentucky, Notre Dame, Marquette, Oakland, Boise State)

Breaking ties between ['Virginia Tech', 'Indiana'] using highest place at regionals.

Broke tie by selecting Virginia Tech (highest regional finish).

30: Virginia Tech (#4 southeast) is selected, has losses to (louisville_classic) Northern Arizona, Louisville, West Virginia, Kentucky; (acc_championships) Louisville; (adidas_di_pre_nationals) Northern Arizona;

Teams under consideration by points:

4 Louisville

1 Utah, Georgetown, California, Eastern Michigan, Baylor

0 Yale, South Dakota, Samford

Others with points: Northern Arizona (5), Ohio State (4), Toledo (2), Wake Forest (2), Abilene Christian (2), Arizona (2), Northwestern (2), Indiana (2), SMU (2), Dayton (2), Duke (2), Arizona State (2), Portland (2), Brown (1), Florida State (1), West Virginia (1), Air Force (1), Pittsburgh (1), Cornell (1), Vanderbilt (1), Princeton (1), Kentucky (1)

31: Louisville (#5 southeast) is selected, has losses to (louisville_classic) Northern Arizona; (adidas_di_pre_nationals) Northern Arizona;

Great Lakes

1 - Michigan State Men

2 - Michigan Men

solid day for the much-maligned patriot league. navy 2nd MA, army 3rd NE, lehigh's pat reilly qualified out of Mid Atlantic, Paul Luevano of BU qualified out of NE region, and christine bendzinski 4th overall to qualify from women's mid-atlantic

Georgetown was AWFUL in the mid-atlantic. 4th place in the second-weakest region in the country (#southcentralsucks) with Jon Green scoring 1 point?!?!

What could west region change

xcmets wrote:

Am I reading the results wrong or did a lot of women drop out of the midatlatic regional race?

http://pioneertiming.com/results/2017/CrossCountry/11_10_NCAA_D1_Mid-Atlantic_Championships/

The live results were slightly off until after the race completed. The split standings had Lehigh leading at the mile with one of their runners in 1st but now the results say she was 84th at the mile and the team was 12th.

It also looks like some of those teams registered almost their entire roster-teams that scored a full team have 6 girls listed as DNF.

Comparing the results to some of their previous meets, yes and no. They look like they pretty much just did a tempo run (their top 2 in most of their races went 3,4) and rested their 5,6 runners from conferences. It was not an all out effort from either CU or UNM.

patriotObserver1124 wrote:

solid day for the much-maligned patriot league. navy 2nd MA, army 3rd NE, lehigh's pat reilly qualified out of Mid Atlantic, Paul Luevano of BU qualified out of NE region, and christine bendzinski 4th overall to qualify from women's mid-atlantic

john valeri of army qualified out of the NE as well!

mmm last year you all didn't know that

"And yes, amazingly what it came down to for Penn vs. Boise State is Penn beating Villanova (running without its top two finishers at Regionals) in a 3-team, 3-mile race way back on September 16. That gave Penn an extra point, and since Penn beat Boise State at Wisconsin, they get in ahead of Boise State."