Doping rife in Kenya with little testing

MyKey wrote:

YMMV wrote:

So Russia, Turkey and India are "European"? You seem to have a problem with geography.

In any case, those circles are rates of positive testing, which has very little correlation with actual doping. The U.S. in reality has more doping than indicated, due to evasion technology, but Kenya and Ethiopia are two of the largest, because of almost complete lack of effective testing.

Yes Russia is a European country you muppet, and Turks are Caucasian, are they not? And lime I said before MOST of the countries implicated in doping are European / Caucasian countries.

I'd sooner believe the well researched investigation by the Independent newspaper than some random guy in the Internet.

No, Turks are a Mongolian people who invaded Europe only 500 years ago and subscribe to an increasingly Islamist faith under a virtual dictator. And you are a complete moron if you think Brits or Germans can't criticize African doping because of Russia.

"Rife" according to the Spanish physiologist consulted by the reporter, means an estimated 5%.

The reporter left "with a feeling it is much higher". He probably arrived with the same feeling.

Hail Keniano wrote:

MyKey wrote:

Yes Russia is a European country you muppet, and Turks are Caucasian, are they not? And lime I said before MOST of the countries implicated in doping are European / Caucasian countries.

I'd sooner believe the well researched investigation by the Independent newspaper than some random guy in the Internet.

No, Turks are a Mongolian people who invaded Europe only 500 years ago and subscribe to an increasingly Islamist faith under a virtual dictator. And you are a complete moron if you think Brits or Germans can't criticize African doping because of Russia.

That's not the point you mug. The "independent" article clearly illustrates that the most virulent dopers are European countries. If you're literate you'll find this clearly shown in the article.

The rest of your rant is pure hogwash.

Now this is an interesting article, containing these hidden gems, unforeshadowed by the misleading Daily Mail headlines:

- UKAD investigated over 14 months, the Seppelt's claim regarding the 3 Britons.

- UKAD found "this documentation (that allegedly implicated the Britons) was shown to be faked. Who faked it and why is unknown."

- Without any real evidence, UKAD: "UKAD can confirm that our investigation has now concluded with no further action for UK Anti-Doping to pursue, unless or until new evidence comes to light."

I'm unsurprised that the Daily Mail headlines don't reveal UKAD's result of their 14-month investigation.

And I'm equally unsurprised that once again, Seppelt went public, with something fake about Kenya, wasting UKAD's valuable and limited resources, setting anti-doping backwards.

Mykey wrote:

That's not the point you mug. The "independent" article clearly illustrates that the most virulent dopers are European countries. If you're literate you'll find this clearly shown in the article.

The rest of your rant is pure hogwash.

No it doesn't. According to the 'Athletics Only' table, 1st is Turkey and 2nd is Russia. France is 4th because as I mentioned above, distance running in France has been taken over by doped up cheating North African 'Frenchmen'. Turkey is not a European country, it is an Asian Mongolian tribe that conquered part of Europe and unfortunately retains around 5% of its territory in Europe (formerly Eastern Roman Empire lands). Russia is not a European country, although most of its people have a high percentage of Caucasian DNA. A majority of its land mass is in Asia and clearly it has quite a separate history to Europe and is currently politically and culturally not only distinct but hostile to Europe. Kenya is 5th on the list, along with Ukraine and ByeloRussia, both of whom are no more European than Russia is.

The first table - the number of failed drug tests in all sports is based on WADA accredited labs. According to this document, WADA doesn't even have an accredited lab in Kenya :

https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/wada_accredited_laboratories_en.pdf

Black supremacists like you really need to try harder to justify your ideology/perversion.

It doesn't look all that clear -- saying "European countries" is a rather crude finding. Russia is located in both Europe and Asia. I guess, at "letsrun", we should look at cases in "athletics", and not "all sports". The Independent article lists "absolute" number of positives -- something that would favor countries with large populations, like Russia and India. It is well known that Russia, Ukraine, Turkey, and Belarus have doping issues. The only other European country listed is France. Well UK too, notable for 0 positives.

Mykey wrote:

That's not the point you mug. The "independent" article clearly illustrates that the most virulent dopers are European countries. If you're literate you'll find this clearly shown in the article.

The rest of your rant is pure hogwash.

Hail Keniano wrote:

The first table - the number of failed drug tests in all sports is based on WADA accredited labs. According to this document, WADA doesn't even have an accredited lab in Kenya :

https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/wada_accredited_laboratories_en.pdf

Black supremacists like you really need to try harder to justify your ideology/perversion.

How did you come to the rather ubsurd conclusion that I'm a "black supremacist" whatever that means.

You're the one giving excuses and deflecting from the fact that European countries lead the world in doping cases.

A rather shameful deflection was you attributing France's doping cases exclusively to its minorities of North African descent. Equally bizarre is your continued insistence that Russia, the biggest doping country in history is not a European country.

I know Americans tend to be a bit thick when it comes to world affairs but you take the cake

I'm not American, I'm British.

You don't have any argument or reasons and your whole case rests on the false assumption that Russia and Turkey are as European as Britain or Italy. In your tiny mind, this implies that countries like Britain should share their guilt and can't throw stones at Kenya!

You accused me of distracting from my own lack of athletic ability and you've just stated that you assume I'm a white American. In other words, you're a black supremacist who believes in the genetic superiority of Kenyan athletes.

Well I can assume a few things about you. You're a white, middle-class British lefty, who likely lives in a near white only leafy London suburb, or failing that if your polytechnic lecturing job doesn't pay for such rents, somewhere in Londonshire. You constantly write letters complaining about white privilage to the Guardian, mock the white working class (and white American males) for being 'stupid' and champion a 'diverse' open borders society, but if your daughter Anabelle ever told you on the phone from her posh private school that she'd started dating a black dude you'd literally lose control of your bowels. You constantly pose as a male feminist and preach fat acceptance and gender fluidity but like to go Weinstein on every nubile young woman that comes within a 20 square meters of you...when you're not jerking off to interracial cuckold smut, of course.

what do they teach you in England where Russia is?

Ahahahaha...why do you think Turkey has been trying to join the EU? Part of it is in Europe, and the other parts falls onto the Asia continent.

teachings wrote:

what do they teach you in England where Russia is?

That Russia up to the Urals is geographically Europe. And we're talking culturally. Clearly Russia is very different to Europe these days.

Tayken wrote:

Ahahahaha...why do you think Turkey has been trying to join the EU? Part of it is in Europe, and the other parts falls onto the Asia continent.

Why do millions of Africans want to claim refugee status in Europe?

Morocco wants to join the EU.

5% of Turkey is in Europe. It's only relation to Europe is a history of conquest, genocide, forced conversion to Islam, and mass immigration creating parallel societies in countries like Germany. Turks can't even become European when they are third generation 'German' citizens.

That was a poorly useless article fit for a gossip magazine like the enquirer.

Why is it that when these Hajjo Sepelt types write an article on Russia they are able to name names and even provide evidence of doping. Yet when they write articles about Kenya, they can never provide proof or even name names?

Steady on old chap!!

I'm actually an African lad who stays somewhere in Surrey.

There goes all your false assumptions.

YMMV wrote:

MyKey wrote:

That is the independent, one of Britain's better newspapers.

Sorry but most of the world's top doping countries are European.

So Russia, Turkey and India are "European"? You seem to have a problem with geography.

In any case, those circles are rates of positive testing, which has very little correlation with actual doping. The U.S. in reality has more doping than indicated, due to evasion technology, but Kenya and Ethiopia are two of the largest, because of almost complete lack of effective testing.

Is it the worlds most doping countries or most "caught" doping countries. Kind of hard to know how many people are doping in countries where there's no out of competition countries. Or we can just take they're word for it they're clean, that always seems to turn out well.

Hail Keniano wrote:

The first table - the number of failed drug tests in all sports is based on WADA accredited labs. According to this document, WADA doesn't even have an accredited lab in Kenya :

https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/wada_accredited_laboratories_en.pdf

Black supremacists like you really need to try harder to justify your ideology/perversion.

The only accredited lab in Africa is.........no longer accredited! Same with South America and France (but France's neighbours have accredited labs).

MyKey wrote:

yes oh sure wrote:

and if you believe this chart which was likely pulled out of some English propaganda agencies ass, I have some seaside property in Mongolia to sell you.

That is the independent, one of Britain's better newspapers.

Sorry but most of the world's top doping countries are European.

You don't think the reason European athletes are more likely to get caught doping is because the testing procedures aren't ridiculously lax? That people aren't give , to cite the article headlining this post, a days notice before being tested??? The level of cognitive dissonance is stunning.

That is the independent, one of Britain's better newspapers.

Sorry but most of the world's top doping countries are European.

You don't think the reason European athletes are more likely to get caught doping is because the testing procedures aren't ridiculously lax? That people aren't give , to cite the article headlining this post, a days notice before being tested??? The level of cognitive dissonance is stunning.[/quote]

Sorry but most African athletes earn their living in the European and North American running circuit where as you yourself admit, the testing procedures are very stringent.

Talk about cognitive dissonance!