Illinois long-term study says young white men who do significant amounts of aerobic exercise long-term are accelerating death

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6 years ago 10/27/2017 11:29pm EDT

re: Burnt out older runner

Burnt out older runner wrote:
Crusty Old Runner wrote:
Moderation is the key if you want to be able to run into your older years and end not up in the trash heap...who would have thought.
Whitlock did ok, but he kept it moderate, under 4 hours per day.

Kept it moderate at under "4 hours per day?" Yikes ?...my total WEEK of running is less than 4 hrs! And even if I wasn't straddled with age-related chronic injuries, I don't think I would want to spend upwards to 4 hrs a day running. Whitlock was obviously good at marathons and built perfect for distance running (i.e., skin & bones), but running 4 hrs a day is an obsession. That's 28 hrs a week...which is more than some people sleep per week.

6 years ago 10/28/2017 12:42am EDT

re: Crusty Old Runner

Steady-state endurance training, or what Kenneth Cooper called "aerobics," is really an archaic idea. In the last 10-15 years, a good amount of research has shown that ideally, exercise should be intense, brief, and infrequent. A lot of people refuse to acknowledge these findings due to their cognitive dissonance and inability to reconsider ideas they've committed their lives to.

Many decades ago, Arthur Jones, the founder of Nautilus and father of "HIT" style weight training, was the first to propose this idea that the ideal exercise program consists of a few minutes of hard weight training done no more than once or twice a week. The fitness mainstream and academic world have ridiculed his ideas ever since, but research is slowly and gradually vindicating them. History will remember him as a genius who was at least 50-100 years ahead of his time.

I recommend everyone interested in rational exercise read his writings:

http://www.arthurjonesexercise.com/home.html

6 years ago 10/28/2017 12:53am EDT

re: I will find out

I will find out wrote:
So, I got an email back from my father - he is aware of the study and those involved, and agreed with what Hardloper and I both got out of it, and his comments are as follows:
"The study design does no allow them to reach the conclusions that they reached. Associations doesn’t prove causation. The endpoint used is questionable."
Again, he's a world-class hematologist who is among the best in his field and is also one of the finest researchers in the field (500+ peer-reviewed published articles), so I would believe what he stated and not worry about the article at all.

Your father's credentials are irrelevant. Science and truth do not depend on your personal attributes or how many people support an idea (based on the little that I read the paper, your father's conclusion is correct). Either something can be directly logically supported or it can't. How many peer-reviewed publications your father has is irrelevant. That kind of reasoning is no better than religious zealots who follow every word of their leader. Do not let science turn into that.

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