Wanjiru vs Kipchoge`

Head to head, Kipchoge wins. A hungover runner is not going to beat Kipchoge.

As long as there are women around the course of the race, then Wanjiru won’t be concentrated.

Dkny64 wrote:

NativeSon wrote:

That makes him 40.

You’re forgetting the letsrun message board belief in a special East African time warp. This time warp causes East African to age at half the rate of other runners; accordingly, the message board believes that Kipchoge was 23 in 2003 and is now 30 in 2017.

If taken literally that would mean Kipchoge is 37. No one here thinks Kipchoge is 30. And there are Kenyans who agree Kipchoge is older than his stated age.

HardLoper wrote:

Dkny64 wrote:

You’re forgetting the letsrun message board belief in a special East African time warp. This time warp causes East African to age at half the rate of other runners; accordingly, the message board believes that Kipchoge was 23 in 2003 and is now 30 in 2017.

If taken literally that would mean Kipchoge is 37. No one here thinks Kipchoge is 30. And there are Kenyans who agree Kipchoge is older than his stated age.

From a Kenyan runner, not an American know-it-all:

‘I don’t have tangible evidence on him (Kipchoge) being probably over 35 years but I competed with him in 2001 and he seemed quite older than me. I am 36 years old now, so I can reasonable assume he is older than that. I know a lot of Kenyans who faked their age including my own family members and neighbors. Benjamin Kiplagat (the Ugandan steeplechaser) is from my place and he competed at world junior championships when he was 28 years of age after obtaining Uganda citizenship. Moses Kiptanui is listed to be born 1970 but he was actually born 1968. Ezekiel Kemboi graduated from high school a year before me, so he should be at least 37yrs’.

Who cares how old is he? You wanna take his junior medals?

His major achievements are in 21 plus

Chipkoge wrote:

Who cares how old is he? You wanna take his junior medals?

His major achievements are in 21 plus

Bu-bu-but he demoralised a whole generation of white western kids who could've been world beaters, regularly running sub 3:30s and 12:50s.

This post lost all credibility when you claimed that Frank Shorter was "in the conversation" of being able to beat Wanjiru.

If you are looking at PRs, it's easy to say Kipchoge, but there's more to it then that.

I think they figured out the Marathon (both in training and pacing) since Sammy W passed. The performances across the board improved, so guys like Emmanuel Mutai could run low 2:03 and get 2nd. Canova has talked about the training developing better where guys are running 40k at 2:08-2:10 pace. I don't think all these guys running faster than 2:05 are more talented than Sammy W, or else they'd pop 58:25 and 26:40 as well. I rather think they are better prepared and paced.

With that being said, Sammy W had one of the biggest engines and ran an alpha style strategy. It's a contrast to the disciplined, calculated style that Eluid Kipchoge runs to wear down his opponents. The better question would be who wins Rio 2016, Eluid or 2008 Sammy?

Amerikano wrote:

If you are looking at PRs, it's easy to say Kipchoge, but there's more to it then that.

I think they figured out the Marathon (both in training and pacing) since Sammy W passed. The performances across the board improved, so guys like Emmanuel Mutai could run low 2:03 and get 2nd. Canova has talked about the training developing better where guys are running 40k at 2:08-2:10 pace. I don't think all these guys running faster than 2:05 are more talented than Sammy W, or else they'd pop 58:25 and 26:40 as well. I rather think they are better prepared and paced.

With that being said, Sammy W had one of the biggest engines and ran an alpha style strategy. It's a contrast to the disciplined, calculated style that Eluid Kipchoge runs to wear down his opponents. The better question would be who wins Rio 2016, Eluid or 2008 Sammy?

11 seconds

44 seconds

10 seconds

23 seconds

19 seconds

VS

2 minutes, 5 seconds

1 minute, 8 seconds

17 seconds

5 seconds

1 minute, 21 seconds

46 seconds

1 minute, 10 seconds

14 seconds

As RUNNERS, perhaps there's a comparison (perhaps). As MARATHONERS, not even close. (And yes, they both have a loss, Wanjiru to Lel by 9 seconds, Kipchoge to Kipsang by 42 seconds.)