Bad Wigins wrote:
We should only hero worship the volunteers who go overseas to murder foreigners and steal their stuff.
A bit off topic, but why refer to it as an "all volunteer army"? They aren't really volunteers. They are paid employees. "All volunteer Walmart Greeters" just doesn't really make sense, does it?
My friend's dad drowned in the ocean while saving a total stranger a few weeks ago. I had never referred to someone I knew as a hero before but I think it's justified with him. And it's justified calling any firefighter or soldier or policeman or person of any job a hero if they make the ultimate sacrifice to save someone else. But jesus have we gone overboard since 9/11 referring to anyone in uniform as a hero. Doing so degrades the true heros we have no matter what their job and attire.
mypredictor wrote:
My friend's dad drowned in the ocean while saving a total stranger a few weeks ago. I had never referred to someone I knew as a hero before but I think it's justified with him. And it's justified calling any firefighter or soldier or policeman or person of any job a hero if they make the ultimate sacrifice to save someone else. But jesus have we gone overboard since 9/11 referring to anyone in uniform as a hero. Doing so degrades the true heros we have no matter what their job and attire.
Good post.
Reminder: most firefighter types are the type who would bully you in high school, call you a f@ggot if you ran cross country, etc.Stop cucking. Be your own hero.
a small point wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:We should only hero worship the volunteers who go overseas to murder foreigners and steal their stuff.
A bit off topic, but why refer to it as an "all volunteer army"? They aren't really volunteers. They are paid employees. "All volunteer Walmart Greeters" just doesn't really make sense, does it?
Because Walmart has never used forced conscription to draft people to be employees.
Distance Fan wrote:
If you have to come to a fire at my house, please make sure all the people get out, and pets if I ever have another, but please let the structure burn to the ground so I don't have to repair, I'd rather rebuild.
If you come to a fire at my house please risk your life to save mine but don't expect a pat on the back.
LOL
Shoebacca wrote:
The marines represent exactly the kind of armed conflict we have been trying to avoid, which is to say that all warfare now tries to be done through technical, surgical means rather than by throwing lives at the problem.
Only because we are fighting insurgents / irregular war / gruella wars. That may not always be true. Things can change quickly. Don't see it changing anytime soon, but if they do it could come quickly. The world is a big place.
There's a microbrew pub near me that's supposed to be owned by some firefighters.
When I heard about, my thinking was: So you guys get paid $100k, you work out and sleep for much of your workday, you've got enough time to open a restaurant, and I'm supposed to eat there because it's firefighter themed?
That said, retire at 50, at least in my state that's not true. Police and firefighters have to be 55 or 57 (I forgot) to collect their pension without a penalty. If you retire as early as 50, you'll have some percentage points knocked off.
San Jose's fire department serves 74,000 calls per year from 33 fire stations, meaning an average of 6.14 per day per station.
http://onlinefiresciencedegree.org/noteworthy-fire-departments/
firefighter restaurant wrote:
There's a microbrew pub near me that's supposed to be owned by some firefighters.
When I heard about, my thinking was: So you guys get paid $100k, you work out and sleep for much of your workday, you've got enough time to open a restaurant, and I'm supposed to eat there because it's firefighter themed?
That said, retire at 50, at least in my state that's not true. Police and firefighters have to be 55 or 57 (I forgot) to collect their pension without a penalty. If you retire as early as 50, you'll have some percentage points knocked off.
LOL. Ridiculous. And as I mentioned, firefighters are the a$$holes that would give you swirlies in high school, make fun of you, shove you in lockers. Now as an adult you're expected to worship them and eat at their restaurants. LOLOLOL
mypredictor wrote:
But jesus have we gone overboard since 9/11 referring to anyone in uniform as a hero. Doing so degrades the true heros we have no matter what their job and attire.
I don't think that happens much outside of the media and marketing departments of sports teams, corporations, etc. I think it's dangerously close to being self serving and disingenuous.
I think for most people, if they see a guy in uniform, it's more like, "thank you for your service", which is not "hero worship".
zxvxvxc wrote:
San Jose's fire department serves 74,000 calls per year from 33 fire stations, meaning an average of 6.14 per day per station.
http://onlinefiresciencedegree.org/noteworthy-fire-departments/
I support firemen, but let's be clear. Those 74k calls are not fires. I'll bet 8/10 of their calls are EMT-type calls and 9/10 of those calls deal with the bottom of society, the drunks, addicts, insane, etc.
HardLoper wrote:
I know OP is probably a troll but a couple months ago there was a very young girl stuck high up in a tree and I counted at least 8 large firetrucks surrounding the park. I am glad they rescued the girl but it must have been a really slow day for fires.
Pretty much every day is a slow day for fires these days. If you look up the number of structure fires it has been going down rapidly for a long time. Most fire department calls actually serve as EMT calls (since the vast majority also have that training). The U.S. (municipalities) continues to fund fire departments at a level that is really not supported by the actual need.
This is not at all including wildland or wildfires. Those are entirely different animals.
Not a greeter because I'm 4F wrote:
a small point wrote:A bit off topic, but why refer to it as an "all volunteer army"? They aren't really volunteers. They are paid employees. "All volunteer Walmart Greeters" just doesn't really make sense, does it?
Because Walmart has never used forced conscription to draft people to be employees.
Although looking at Walmarts long history of labor abuse, you could be excused if you were confused about that...
How many of you fire fighter haters are arsonists.......
Mr. Obvious wrote:
HardLoper wrote:I know OP is probably a troll but a couple months ago there was a very young girl stuck high up in a tree and I counted at least 8 large firetrucks surrounding the park. I am glad they rescued the girl but it must have been a really slow day for fires.
Pretty much every day is a slow day for fires these days. If you look up the number of structure fires it has been going down rapidly for a long time. Most fire department calls actually serve as EMT calls (since the vast majority also have that training). The U.S. (municipalities) continues to fund fire departments at a level that is really not supported by the actual need.
This is not at all including wildland or wildfires. Those are entirely different animals.
Interesting point. A lot of money has been put into fireproofing structures, but is spending that money intended to save money down the line? Where would the savings come from? Less damage in the event of a fire? Or smaller fire departments?
Pyromaniacs associated with crimes are usually fireman.
Count Chocula wrote:
Mr. Obvious wrote:Pretty much every day is a slow day for fires these days. If you look up the number of structure fires it has been going down rapidly for a long time. Most fire department calls actually serve as EMT calls (since the vast majority also have that training). The U.S. (municipalities) continues to fund fire departments at a level that is really not supported by the actual need.
This is not at all including wildland or wildfires. Those are entirely different animals.
Interesting point. A lot of money has been put into fireproofing structures, but is spending that money intended to save money down the line? Where would the savings come from? Less damage in the event of a fire? Or smaller fire departments?
From my understanding (a bit limited, but I've done some reading on it) the main issue is to reduce the ability of fires to spread from one structure to another, which historically has been a cause of huge amounts of damage and deaths. This is especially true in crowded cities, where a structure fire could easily burn down an entire block of row houses. Better building codes, better materials, etc. have contributed.
I think the main driver has been that it is safer and less property damage. It has never been intended to save money from reducing fire departments, per se. Fire departments, certainly not alone in this, are an area where there is bound to be some downtown so that you can actually have good response times. However the reduction in demand has been very large and I just don't think structurally we have adjusted on the staffing need for fire departments.
Firemen are cool as long as you don't ax them to eat watermelon.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!
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