How many people on site think that there is way more to that shooting then the FBI is saying?

ballerr wrote:

They aren't even talking about the second shooter in the second window.

Exactly!

Timothy Foyle wrote:

ballerr wrote:

They aren't even talking about the second shooter in the second window.

Exactly!

Isn't that part of the large suite he had? (never been to Mandalay)

They say he had no political leanings. If that's true, then he was the ONLY adult in the country who had no strong political opinions in the last election.

Something is very wrong with this picture.

That Flip chick is lying. She conned the dude out of big $$$, (she learned how at a young age in Manilla at Subic Bay Naval Station), then dumped him, which pushed him over the edge.

It's a casino. One of the most heavily monitored and recorded places on the planet. If there is more to it, it will become public. Truth is in a target rich environment like he was shooting at, even a blind person would hit someone.

comedyrelief wrote:

It's a casino. One of the most heavily monitored and recorded places on the planet. If there is more to it, it will become public. Truth is in a target rich environment like he was shooting at, even a blind person would hit someone.

LOL. You ready like the truth is going to come out because it's a casino? Ha! Just the opposite. They are fantastic at keeping secrets. Heck, if MGM released 10% of what they had on Trump he would never have been elected.

It was Oswald and Kennedy in cahoots with Walt Disney's frozen head. It didn't even happen in Vegas. They used the same soundstage used to fake the moon landings.

How did it take police so long to find where the shots were coming from? If there were people in rooms anywhere near him they surely would have called the hotel to report gun fire in the room next to them, above them, whatever. That is, unless the government was involved and made sure all those rooms were clear.

Several people have video showing up to 7 shooters!

OJ Simpson was in the area!

Truly!! wrote:

I am just saying things look strange.

They always do.

I am suspicious, but it may not be for the nefarious reasons suggested. It could be to calm any potential panic or to snuff out the others.

It happened because the Earth is flat...DUH!

What is the FBI saying? There's no final report. The whole thing is still under investigation. There are dozens of agents going through this guy's life with a fine-tooth comb. There are good reasons that law enforcement doesn't publicly discuss every line of information they are tracking down as they are doing it.

Everyone wants instant answers to everything because that's how the Internet works, but that's not how real life works. The lack of instant complete answers doesn't mean every crazy conspiracy theory must be true.

I am pretty sure that it is law enforcement 101 to hold back information during an active criminal investigation.

There are reports that Paddock left a note, but that it was not a suicide note.

An in-law of Paddock's girlfriend reported that Paddock was very well versed in 2nd amendment arguments and very much a gun rights guy.

The attack was very well planned and may have included a dry run before another festival.

He was prescribed anxiety meds and was reported to be losing weight and not keeping up with his personal appearance the last few months. His father was a psychopath. But he had been accumulating weapons for years and was an avid collector. His preparation for the attack was extensive and may have included a dry run or scouting other locations. Clearly he did not experience a sudden psychotic break, but had been suffering from something over a long period of time. Maybe he had a terminal illness and wanted to get killed in a spectacular attack rather than die in a hospital. Maybe he had fallen out of favor with Vegas casinos and wanted to try to ruin Vegas by staging a mass shooting.

DiscoGary wrote:

They say he had no political leanings. If that's true, then he was the ONLY adult in the country who had no strong political opinions in the last election.

Not surprised you would believe this.

Actually, it's remarkable at how good he was with everything from the selection of his room to his plan to cycle through rifles (to avoid hot gun barrels) to how steady his shooting was.

The conspiracy theorist in me is intrigued, but really I think the FBI investigation will show he just planned it out well. Unfortunately for all those affected.

This is a military man's perspective on what happened:

This situation can be understood as a guy who meticulously planned an awful event, BUT, there can be a lot more to this, as well. I really don't want to buy into a conspiracy-type event, but this pic raises many questions.

How did his foot get under the rifle? If he was standing when he shot himself, it would be literally impossible to end up in this position. If he was sitting in his final moment, which could have been possible, it is just an awkward position to be in. Keep in mind that we're talking about 6-8 inches of clearance between the floor and the rifle. Very weird.

https://www.tuxboard.com/photos/2017/10/corps-stephen-paddock.jpg

ballerr wrote:

How did it take police so long to find where the shots were coming from? If there were people in rooms anywhere near him they surely would have called the hotel to report gun fire in the room next to them, above them, whatever. That is, unless the government was involved and made sure all those rooms were clear.

This is not true. It actually didn't take police long to identify his room. It took them a long time to breach his room because they had no idea what was on the other side.

The timeline has shown that from his first shot to his last, only about 10 minutes passed. The room was quiet for almost an hour before police breached the door and found him dead from self-inflicted gun wound.

But hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.

TheTruthBomb wrote:

It happened because the Earth is flat...DUH!

Exactly. Or pizzagate. For a conspiracy, you need a motive.

I haven't heard any high value targets were killed, and this would be an inefficient way to do that anyway.

No way this Congress is passing a gun control measure, so you can throw that out as a motive.

Not a front for a war. You would have put a Muslim or North Korean patsy in there for that.

Not a front for social discord. Best bets would have been a man with white nationalist ties, or maybe black nationalist or Mexican for the country music crowd.

Best motive I can come up with is to get the country to come together and get pro athletes to stand for the anthem. Not likely