jimwalmsley wrote:
real question here is... what kind of drug will Rupp use for chicago mrthn?
The latest that they can't test for, of course.
Duh
What do Kenyans think about Rupp?
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The latest that they can't test for, of course.
Duh -
ask salazar...
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Star wrote:
The Kenyans are well aware of Rupp.
He has a faster 10,000m PR than all active Kenyans along with a Silver meal in that event.
He finished third in the Olympic marathon beating two prominent Kenyans.
And he is really, really white and stands out when running with the leaders.
They're aware of him.
lol. Keep dreaming. Illusions of grandeur. Rupp needs to borrow a leaf from Jager and just freaking show up when it matters! When was the last time Rupp raced a serious DL and placed in the top 3? Yeah, yeah, he has moved up to the marathon. Whoops, not much visibility there since only two Americans have posted times in the top 100 in the marathon: Ryan Hall (number 59) and Khalid Kannouchi (number 100).
I would like to see Rupp rise to global dominance but man, I don't see it happening. Either you Americans adopt the Kenyans we've donated to you and build them up or get one of your locals doing well in your college XC circuits (I cannot think of any strong USA runner at that level since the last time I checked there was Chez, Tiernan, and Knight) and build that talent! -
Mkenya Daima wrote:
Star wrote:
The Kenyans are well aware of Rupp.
He has a faster 10,000m PR than all active Kenyans along with a Silver meal in that event.
He finished third in the Olympic marathon beating two prominent Kenyans.
And he is really, really white and stands out when running with the leaders.
They're aware of him.
lol. Keep dreaming. Illusions of grandeur. Rupp needs to borrow a leaf from Jager and just freaking show up when it matters! When was the last time Rupp raced a serious DL and placed in the top 3? Yeah, yeah, he has moved up to the marathon. Whoops, not much visibility there since only two Americans have posted times in the top 100 in the marathon: Ryan Hall (number 59) and Khalid Kannouchi (number 100).
I would like to see Rupp rise to global dominance but man, I don't see it happening. Either you Americans adopt the Kenyans we've donated to you and build them up or get one of your locals doing well in your college XC circuits (I cannot think of any strong USA runner at that level since the last time I checked there was Chez, Tiernan, and Knight) and build that talent!
when's the last time you checked? there's plenty of talented American guys coming up including one who beat Knight over 5k this summer
rupp was in medal contention in every race he ran on the track for years(2012-2016), has two Olympic medals and was more consistent than anyone from Kenya over that time
P.S. since you haven't checked in years two guys to look up are Grant Fisher and Drew Hunter btw -
Place never matters? wrote:
I bet he eventually runs as fast as Ritz and Hall. Maybe faster. He just needs the right day.
Ritz? We're comparing him to Ritz? Ritz was never really internationally a factor in the marathon. Hall was at least a player.
To act like Hall and Ritz are in the same category of marathoners is disrespectful to Hall. Hall was top 5 in 6 straight Abbott World Marahton majors He broke 2:10 eight times.
Ritz was top 5 in a major once in his career and broke 2:10 3 times. Even when Ritz ran 2:07, he was just 9th in Chicago.
Hall in my opinion is the greatest American born marathoner in history. Better than Shorter. Now that's a controversial view but if they raced head to head I think Hall would have trounced Shorter. -
KFC wrote:
yuki kawauchi is better than rupp.he is not afraid to race with the big dogs.he even race a lot.
Not true. Yuki couldn't even make the Japanese Olympic marathon team. No Japanese man came close to a medal. Rupp won a medal.
Yuki has never come close to top 3 at a major. Rupp has run two majors (counting the Olympics) and been top three in all of them. -
El Keniano wrote:
I’ve told you lot several times that Kenyans only know Evan Jager. But I don’t think it’s just because he runs the steeple, he’s bloody good, has heart and Kenyans respect that.
Definitely, El Keniano! I meant to say that he is particularly known because he has become good enough to try to challenge Kenyan dominance in the event. I would actually extend the thought to say anyone who has challenged Kenyan dominance has become very well-known, regardless of event or nationality. Mo Farah, of course, (he didn't just challenge it, he crushed it) Gebreselassie, Bekele, Mo Aman, Edris, Kebede (BTW, in Kenya, any other Ethiopian than these five - with the exception of Tola who got some good Kamworor-Karoki treatment in Cardif - is not known) El Guerrouj (sic), Tedese, Nijel Amos, and then definitely Abera Kuma, who is known for something totally different from running! Hint: his last name means something in Swahili. -
jimwalmsley wrote:
real question here is... what kind of drug will Rupp use for chicago mrthn?
Actually, the real question is how fast could Rupp go if given the same powerful dope the Kenyans receive? Sub 2:01 for sure. -
I am saying this now...if Rupp doesn't go 2:07 or lower at Chicago, he never will. Flat course. Weather is looking really good. Good competition. Marathon experience. Healthy (as far as we know).
Look at his 3 marathons: LA Marathon was hot. Rio was hot and humid. Boston is not known to be a fast course. This is his best chance so far to lay down a "real" fast time. -
Symmonds will run faster in Hawaii.
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MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:
I am saying this now...if Rupp doesn't go 2:07 or lower at Chicago, he never will. Flat course. Weather is looking really good. Good competition. Marathon experience. Healthy (as far as we know).
Look at his 3 marathons: LA Marathon was hot. Rio was hot and humid. Boston is not known to be a fast course. This is his best chance so far to lay down a "real" fast time.
it could be a tactical race the first half in 1:06 and they close in 1:02 and they wouldn't run low or under 2:07 -
Rupp can get the American record with a 2:05:38, which isn't absurd to think he can do. That should be his goal. The question is whether with DK in front of him he get can get pacers for anything slower than 2:04.
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The question is..who do/did the Kenyans respect more. Ryan Hall or Galen Rupp?
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While Rupp wrongs me the wrong way, the criticisms here are confusing me.
The guy has run three marathons, all in awful conditions. Let's not even consider the Olympic Trials because he won, it was hot, and the whole point was to simply win and preserve himself to the greatest extent possible.
He won the bronze at the Olympics. I don't get the "each country could only bring three" criticism. Each country arguably brought what it thought was its best three, and no country put more than one ahead of Rupp. Time was irrelevant given the conditions and the fact that it is a race in which position is the only thing that matters.
He finished second at the Boston Marathon which is on tough course, it was a hot race, without pacers. Why is his time there relevant?
And if he doesn't run a fast time at Chicago, that will make him a failure? Chicago is a blazing fast course, but again, no pacers. And who said the weather is going to be perfect? Current forecast for race day is a low of 62 and a high of 80. Perfect day for an 800m, not so much for 42k.
Get on Rupp for being a cheater. Get on him for his douche-like showing in the OT. Get on him for being just weird. But to get on him for not being a good marathoner when he placed 3rd in the Olympics and 2nd at a world major (even with a weak field, it was a world major), and to get on him because he hasn't run a certain time when none of his three marathons had pacers and none had even remotely decent weather, just doesn't make much sense to me. -
Beautiful Day wrote:
Yeah.
All those guys who have run 2:02-2:06 will instead run 2:08-2:12. And Rupp, who has hardly broken 2:10 will run 2:06. Right.
1. Rupp bet Meb at the trials. Okay.
2. Rupp won a bronze because each country could only send 3 athletes. Okay.
3. Rupp faded as usual at Boston and still hasn't run fast enough to top the world record from the 60s.
The dude is not a marathoner, though he's run a fair half. That's okay. Lots of guys are fast in the half marathon, and not at the full 26.2. He's pretty much trapped, though. At some point, he either has to win another one, or run a time that your standard sub-27 10K runner might run. Or, just stop running marathons. That's the obvious answer.
You're trolling right?
1) First marathon wins Olympic Trials.
2) 2nd marathon wins Olympic medal- only 1:21 behind best marathoner world has ever seen.
3) 3rd marathon 2nd in Boston Marathon.
People are asking if he'll run what Ritz and Hall did in the marathon. Ritz ran 2:07:47 for NINTH at Chicago. Rupp has already eclipsed that accomplishment in all 3 of his marathons. What sort of odds do you want to take that Rupp won't run faster than 2:07:47 ever in his career? I'll bet up to $10,000 he does it.
We shoudl ignore Hall's 2:04:58 or put it in perspective. He was nearly 2 minutes behind the winner. So Hall's best is his 2:06:17 in London when he was 5th and a minute behind the winner. Wouldn't shock me if Rupp ran 2:06 in Chicago. -
When Galen was asked if he was interested in what Kenyans thought of him, he replied, "I'm all ears."
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Smoove wrote:
Get on him for his douche-like showing in the OT. Get on him for being just weird.
Haven't followed running very closely until recently... what happened? -
He basically sat on Meb's shoulder the whole time and refused to take the lead at any point, despite Meb basically saying to him during the race that he wanted Galen to stop riding right on top of him. They had pulled ahead of most of the field and I think Meb's perspective was, why not work together some to put these guys away altogether. Instead, Rupp just sat back and executed his race plan. I can get why Rupp took that approach - this is an each man for himself sport - but it still seems like a douche move.
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I just hope they have thought of him, because he has a good chance of winning.
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Robert Lee wrote:
Some say they fear him. Others admire him.
Doctors hate him...
