2 Dozen Players Kneel During Anthem at Jags-Ravens Game in London

Pookie Washington wrote:

You fools have lost your mind if you think people are going to stop watching the NFL. Stop watching Fox News.....the ratings are just fine.

Mr. Washington: I addressed a previous comment stated by another poster that black athletes will be biggest losers due to protests. Previous poster was implying the NFL is in decline. I do not disagree with previous poster that we are at or past peak NFL. I do not believe NFL is a net benefit to black Americans. Robust high speed rail connecting US cities would benefit US blacks more than any other program. Mobility of Labor is a significant factor in economic success of many in US. Too often when a city or greater metro area suffers a depression, blacks are stuck in said metro area. NFL is a drain in numerous ways. NFL is an opiate. I watch just enough FOX so I know what 40% of US citizens are being told.

Dear Team Alt-Right: Yea, and all your stupid memes, links to bogus websites, references to blowhard “experts” and studies, and slides full of cherry-picked evidence that look like they were made for a 10th grade social studies class run by Nazis are not propaganda? They’re ugly and boring and obviously cooked up by the right-wing Information Ministry on a daily basis to flood the Internet to distract attention from Trump’s latest disgrace. –Team Trump Sucks

But, it doesn't matter wrote:

You see, here is the thing about Fitzy... Fitzy attacks your logic, but presents nothing to support the attack. Fitzy is not dumb, but Fitzy is not right, either.

I, and another, have presented history that is contrary to what is widely believed by many. And the current mainstream historical beliefs are very much the issue here. But you, and many others, discredit what is presented... and you simply rationalize your cognitive dissonance. In fact, you just simply ignore what is presented to you.

FitzyXC wrote:

So, because some black people do sh*tty things (and it is not a majority by any means, and no amount of youtube clips will make it a majority), that means that these players (not all of whom are black, mind you) need to, for some inexplicable reason, take ownership of those sh*tty things done by other people and fix those first before complaining about any perceived mistreatment/profiling by law enforcement, who presumably should be held to a higher standard than Average Black Dude (or Average White Dude, for that matter)?

Generalization Nation at work, I suppose.

Agreed 100%

DiscoGary wrote:

People are really, really, really sick of this race hustle game.

If by 'people' you mean you and your racist friends

But, it doesn't matter wrote:

At the end of the day, Fitzy, this whole situation can be summed by with this... our entire current political and social firestorm, is a mass-display of how effective propaganda is, and how low our countries understanding of its very short history is. The videos displayed, shows a black environment that is very influential for millions of black Americans. This is a fact, this is not debatable. Much of this garbage is mainstream propaganda. This IS the problem. Not cops killing blacks. Bad information. Propaganda. And black America killing each other in the midst of it... and the media and the politicians lie about it... and black America kills each other in the midst of it.

Why do black players need to take ownership of things that other black people do when you would never ask the same of white people?

There are problems, and a lot of these players are doing something about it (but that doesn't make the news, now does it?). Do expect you them to fix all problems with blacks in America before having any right to protest mistreatment? Not only mistreatment, but also the fact that the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is showing a fundamental disrespect to them (and has been his entire life)?

And if you are going to reply with another Orwellian rant about how black people/Democrats/the media are the real problem, well there's nothing I can do for you. Like pretty much every political issue, this is not black and white, but apparently people just have to see it that way.

Our President felt the need to call individuals who are trying to raise awareness to police mistreatment "SOBs". That's the state of the world we live in.

No, they knelt. Your neo-Nazi/KKK buddies spit on the US flag.

I haven't see white people this worked up since the OJ trial. Pretty easy to see what pushes their buttons.

exthrower wrote:

breit leit wrote:

Our President felt the need to call individuals who are trying to raise awareness to police mistreatment "SOBs". That's the state of the world we live in.

They spit on the flag and this country....You are trying to 'soft peddle' it now because of the backlash....

Incorrect. They were expressing their Constitutional right to lawful protest. You and your cronies are disrespecting the flag and the Constitution by trying to deny their rights.

kneeling is highly respectful, which is why there is no evidence whatsoever that they disrespect the flag or country, but ask that our ideals be upheld in policing, which all of us should support because all races are subject to police violence in this country at rates far beyond any other first world country.

exthrower wrote:

breit leit wrote:

Our President felt the need to call individuals who are trying to raise awareness to police mistreatment "SOBs". That's the state of the world we live in.

They spit on the flag and this country....You are trying to 'soft peddle' it now because of the backlash....

Yeah they didn't, though. I know facts elude your juvenile trolling persona, but you can do better.

asdfasd wrote:

kneeling is highly respectful, which is why there is no evidence whatsoever that they disrespect the flag or country, but ask that our ideals be upheld in policing, which all of us should support because all races are subject to police violence in this country at rates far beyond any other first world country.

All this spin isn't going to work. Everyone knows that this protest is saying that America sucks, and that the people saying it have done very well here and no reason to complain, and that they are blaming the whole country for problems others have brought on themselves.

You are losing this culture battle so you are spinning. Too late. Politicians depend on memories being very short and usually they are right, but no one forgets when they are accused of doing something they haven't done. That kind of unfairness gets seared into one's brain. Good luck mending that bridge.

You have done very well in the US and complain constantly, hypocrite.

DiscoGary wrote:

Politicians depend on memories being very short and usually they are right, but no one forgets when they are accused of doing something they haven't done. That kind of unfairness gets seared into one's brain. Good luck mending that bridge.

Get over it, snowflake.

oscar the g wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

All this spin isn't going to work. Everyone knows that this protest is saying that America sucks, and that the people saying it have done very well here and no reason to complain, and that they are blaming the whole country for problems others have brought on themselves.

You are losing this culture battle so you are spinning. Too late. Politicians depend on memories being very short and usually they are right, but no one forgets when they are accused of doing something they haven't done. That kind of unfairness gets seared into one's brain. Good luck mending that bridge.

You have done very well in the US and complain constantly, hypocrite.

Liberals won't even try mending the bridge though. When they lose the debate, they attack whoever defeated them. That won't work either.

Vivalarepublica wrote:

I haven't see white people this worked up since the OJ trial. Pretty easy to see what pushes their buttons.

Would love to see these black men be as committed to their families as they are towards this protest. Stop having kids out of wedlock and leaving the mom's to jump on the welfare wagon and be responsible.

Stop blaming white people for your problems, stop killing each other and stop playing the victim. The problem is staring at you when you look in the mirror.

outta work. wrote:

Vivalarepublica wrote:

I haven't see white people this worked up since the OJ trial. Pretty easy to see what pushes their buttons.

Would love to see these black men be as committed to their families as they are towards this protest. Stop having kids out of wedlock and leaving the mom's to jump on the welfare wagon and be responsible.

Stop blaming white people for your problems, stop killing each other and stop playing the victim. The problem is staring at you when you look in the mirror.

Do you blame the entire white community for crappy white people and ask them to hold the white community responsible, or is that just something you do with the black community?

DiscoGary wrote:

oscar the g wrote:

You have done very well in the US and complain constantly, hypocrite.

Liberals won't even try mending the bridge though. When they lose the debate, they attack whoever defeated them. That won't work either.

You aren't creating a fantasy world worthy of a Hugo award.

oscar the g wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Liberals won't even try mending the bridge though. When they lose the debate, they attack whoever defeated them. That won't work either.

You aren't creating a fantasy world worthy of a Hugo award.

One of us is living in a fantasy world and one of us is living in the real world.

Either the US is one of the most tolerant, free, prosperous countries the world has ever seen, where the rights of everyone are respected both in law and in spirit.

Or the US is a horrible cesspool of racism and bigotry where non-whites live in constant fear and oppression, without civil rights or the protection of the law.

One of those visions is correct, and the other is a fantasy based on propaganda. Which world do you live in?