How do millenials survive considering how much they love to travel and not work?

tdIQ wrote:

As a statistical average millennials in the workplace are working more hours and taking less of their vacation time (to the point where they don't even use what was given to them) than the previous generation. They are far more likely to have a side-gig than previous generations as well.

So it sounds like a problem with the people you associate with more than anything.

"Average millennials in the workplace" exactly most are traveling and sleeping in their parents basements - so the ones that do work have to work more. Your stats do nothing for me without proper analysis. Also if you are going to throw out mindless stats you might as well try to give a link to the research and a description of their study and the process otherwise said stats are pointless.

Could I not interpret your stats as "Millennials are dumber and lazy. So they have to work more obviously to make up for their low intelligence. They also have no backbone - so the ones that do work don't even have the balls to take a vacation."

Sounds like you have a problem with stats.

Millenial1993 wrote:

Does anyone else see their friends/coworkers quitting their jobs to hike the

Appalachian trail for a few months of just working part time in general because they think they will be the next Pre? It just doesn't make sense. They are either rich or don't care about starving when they are senior citizens.

Given inflation, the rise of AI (loss of basic jobs), and loss of things like pensions - it would seem millennials are screwed.

Also the other day I mentioned this to a coworker and he thought it was normal for the parents to give $$ to their kid if they decided to quit their job and travel. I was like wtf I would never ask my parents to give me money even if I was homeless. I would rather just die.

It's not hard to save money to go hike a trail. You need a backpack, a tent, a sleeping bag and a bunch of cheap crappy food.

Ok. Can you clarify your original point? Are you saying that most millennials go on trips, or that most millennials are constantly traveling? There is a big difference between "using my company's vacation days to travel" and "going off the grid and living like a nomad"

Peter Pans wrote:

Millennials are all Peter Pans.

New study shows teens in no rush to date, drive or become adults

The study found that the percentage of adolescents in the U.S. who have a driver’s license and date has plummeted since 1976.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/neither-drinking-nor-driving-more-teens-are-putting-off-traditional-markers-of-adulthood/2017/09/18/b46027a0-93f1-11e7-8754-d478688d23b4_story.html

First off I am not sure that teens delaying getting a drivers license is a bad thing. It seems like every generation has had the no rush to date label placed on them--the difference here is that so many are into hooking up and that brings a lot of baggage.

Lmao "I can't be bothered to check simple Google searches for this data also even if it exists I already have a narrative crafted for why they work more but still aren't as good as the previous generation"

It also matter which region of the country more than it used to. In NYC, you'll find most millennials are extremely driven and working up to 80 hours/week. People who are driven come here to work because there's the most opportunity to use that drive for productive purposes. People who stay in areas where there isn't much opportunity likely aren't as driven or career oriented.

I don't think it's an issue of work ethic with millennials, rather a desire to do work autonomously in a meaningful job.

too intellectually lazy to provide any evidence to support his argument so he calls your post "mindless stats" hahaha

nope wrote:

too intellectually lazy to provide any evidence to support his argument so he calls your post "mindless stats" hahaha

UR 2 lazy to provide proof your counter-argument is true. UR also 2 lazy 2 use capital letters & periods.

epon wrote:

nope wrote:

too intellectually lazy to provide any evidence to support his argument so he calls your post "mindless stats" hahaha

UR 2 lazy to provide proof your counter-argument is true. UR also 2 lazy 2 use capital letters & periods.

what's my counter-argument?

I suppose I fit your bill in a bunch of categories- don't "work" a ton, travel a lot. But where the heck are these parents with money?! I wish I had those. Never got anything from them and never will because they don't have anything to give.

To answer your question: you don't need much money to live. Spend little, live within your means, and relish in the freedom to live how you want to with the rest of your time. I'm saving money to buy property to farm on as my retirement plan so I can continue to not contribute to the economy.

John Utah wrote:

I'm a curmedugon conservative but I've got nothing against melinials. Times change but people are people. Some work hard, some are slackers. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.

Frankly, the kids in high school work a lot harder than I ever did. OMG the freaking homework they get!!! Time wasting homework.

Yes, every generation (now us boomers) feels the need to crap on the generations that come later.

Back in the late 60s, early 70s, Plenty of people dodged the Vietnam draft, moved to Frisco or a commune and smoked dope and mind you were the first sports bums, be it running, skiing, mountain climbing, etc and got just-get-by jobs for a few years. A healthy economy forgives a lot of sins .

Parents

Yung Idjits wrote:

I read an article in the WP, linked below, about teens delaying markers of adulthood. If you have a kid at home, be prepared for the little blood sucker to stay under your roof, on your dime, for the long haul people. Kids are evolving into ever softer, weaker creatures who need Mommy and Daddy to assuage their endless anxiety and to place free food in their bellies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/neither-drinking-nor-driving-more-teens-are-putting-off-traditional-markers-of-adulthood/2017/09/18/b46027a0-93f1-11e7-8754-d478688d23b4_story.html?utm_term=.afc7dbaf41f3

If this was my kid I would cry.

smarterers wrote:

We are just smarted than you and don't wish to be slaves. Universal income is coming. You mad, bro?

No. You're absolutely dumber. Millennials have confused problem solving with self absorption. You're incapable of seeing this problem because of the problem itself. You reject critique because of this problem itself. Millennials are easily the worst critical thinkers of any generation in American history and yet their self-perception is the most inflated.

That's why you think you're "smarter". You're not. Be assured.

Millennials and conservatives are America's looming cancers. And for all their differences, it's the similarities that are the most striking.

Because we millenials survive on a diet that consists mostly of avocado toast. Has all the nutrients you need at an affordable price.

We also have a better sense of humor than you stodgy old farts, so that helps, too.

tdIQ wrote:

As a statistical average millennials in the workplace are working more hours and taking less of their vacation time (to the point where they don't even use what was given to them) than the previous generation. They are far more likely to have a side-gig than previous generations as well.

So it sounds like a problem with the people you associate with more than anything.

This is very true. The purchasing power of millennials is lower than that of the boomers when they first entered the job market, because middle-class wages have been stagnant for so long. A couple things that enable me to take a vacation to Europe for a week if I want to is by:

1. Using the internet to find incredible deals on flights & using Airbnb to stay wherever for pretty cheap. I just went to Paris for a week last month - $415 round trip tickets & $75/night Airbnb. Cheap.

2. Not over leveraging myself because I feel some unreasonable urge to buy a gigantic house and financially handcuff myself for the next 30 years or spend a shit load on my credit card because I'm in a dick-measuring contest with my neighbors for who can portray a higher socioeconomic status. I live with 2 roommates and pay $700/month to live in one of the USA's larger urban centers. I have two credit cards - one with no balance, and I use the other one for everything and pay it off every month because it gets me skymiles. I don't have a car - I take public transit everywhere I go. Basically, I try to be responsible with my finances.

Yeah but the focus of this troll thread isn't millennials with decent jobs and a responsible finances; it's about millennials who have no real income yet manage to constantly be traveling around the country/world.

I suspect that the lower cost of airfare and the increase in social media makes Boomers feel that everyone in their 20s is traveling all the time, even though that is not the case.

JRRJRJ wrote:

smarterers wrote:

We are just smarted than you and don't wish to be slaves. Universal income is coming. You mad, bro?

No. You're absolutely dumber. Millennials have confused problem solving with self absorption. You're incapable of seeing this problem because of the problem itself. You reject critique because of this problem itself. Millennials are easily the worst critical thinkers of any generation in American history and yet their self-perception is the most inflated.

That's why you think you're "smarter". You're not. Be assured.

Millennials and conservatives are America's looming cancers. And for all their differences, it's the similarities that are the most striking.

Don't conservatives and millennials (in general) have completely opposing political views?

smarterers wrote:

We are just smarted than you a

Says it all.