Am I being unfair to judge some of the guys my age based on how I feel the older men I know used to act when young?

My wife is 28, I am 54. She is objectively hotter than me, but I have the weight of a life well-lived on my side. I tell her that if we were the same age she would not give me the time of day (and for you trolls: she make a LOT more than me).

She laughs in agreement. Smart men age like wine.

It's funny to me how many women in their 20s think they're so mature and they deserve better.

To the OP, I'd take a good hard look at yourself and ask why you think you're somehow better than men your age.

To the person who said the OP sounds like the little girl in Up In The Air, you're spot on.

What's wrong with you people?

PICs of this pot stirrer to start ?

What's interesting is how anytime an alleged female starts a thread on here is how many people try to insult her or tear her down. Seems like a lot of insecure young men, which only proves her point.

I think if a 20-something man started a thread claiming he was simply too good for his peers, there would be an equal, if not greater, number of men and women tearing him down. It's not the fact that the messenger (the OP) is a woman, it's the ridiculous message of the OP.

RealityCheck wrote:

I think if a 20-something man started a thread claiming he was simply too good for his peers, there would be an equal, if not greater, number of men and women tearing him down. It's not the fact that the messenger (the OP) is a woman, it's the ridiculous message of the OP.

This probably is true, because criticizing is what Letsrun does best, but there will be at least a few bros talking about how awesome they are as well and how the modern woman just doesn't cut it anymore. And I agree, the premise of the OP is somewhat ridiculous, like previous generations were more mature in their 20s than this current crop. Older men always are going to seem more mature and women also mature faster than their peers. Although sometimes I look around and wonder what the hell these young guys are thinking. Or if they are thinking at all.

If you read this thread, you will see that the OP clearly says that she isn't perfect herself...

Letsrun feminist squad, I also thought the tone of the responses was a little more negative than usual...then I thought OP and and VLR were gonna get together and then I wondered if this was all a long way for VLR to troll us all...I really like that he added an email to his username just in case. This whole thread has just been a thrill ride!!

FYI OP I'm on the "East Coast" as well and I've met some quality folks in running clubs. Generally, more serious running clubs seem to attract fewer tools in my experience.

Another woman here, last year I moved from a more mid-sized city in the south to the bay area. I was thinking that there would be more people carrying the traits OP is looking for, but it seems like there are a lot of man-childs here. What gives?

Lol, I wish that I had those kind of trolling abilities, but I'm not going to waste my time thinking up some elaborate scheme. I'm not even sure if I have the ability to think up that level of trolling. Too much authenticity here.

I don't have experience with serious running clubs, but I could see that they might attract a more mature individual, because being good at running as an adult takes some dedication and commitment.

That's because of the tech bro culture there. The rumors are true.

Viva, do you ever have any plans to move from the midwest?

"Of course I am not going to judge the maturity of a guy in his 20s compared to the maturity of a guy in his late 30s or 40s. "

But it seems like you are.

Not only do you not really know what these guys were like when they were younger but you don't know how they are outside of the office.

They have to be professional at work, especially around women.

Men haven't changed from the last generation.

When I was 17 I thought I would understand everything by the time I was 24, but it didn't happen until I was 42. Other than a little dyslexia, I nailed it!

Also, 42 is the answer to the question of the meaning of life, so find yourself a 42 year old and be happy.

............. wrote:

Viva, do you ever have any plans to move from the midwest?

Yes. But the Rust Belt has grown on me a little for its pride in its everlasting mediocrity. Why are you asking? Looking to sleep on my future couch outside of the Midwest?

Where are you thinking of moving? East coast? West coast?

.............. wrote:

Where are you thinking of moving? East coast? West coast?

Again, why are you asking?

And you must be from one of the coasts, considering that you assume the only places I would consider moving to is one of the coasts. Typical coasty.

Just curious. If you are as into self-improvement and ambition as you say, a bigger city is more likely to carry that. Usually one on the coasts. The other place is the south (if we split the US into four parts) but they are lacking in these types of places...

............... wrote:

Just curious. If you are as into self-improvement and ambition as you say, a bigger city is more likely to carry that. Usually one on the coasts. The other place is the south (if we split the US into four parts) but they are lacking in these types of places...

Yawn. I am an international, cosmopolitan man. I have my sights sets on a posh European destinations like Paris, Geneva, or Milan. Yankee coastal strongholds do not appeal to my well developed aesthetic. Please.

viva probably makes less money than jamin, LOL