RamShit DipShit wrote:
Your kid is going to be studying the inside of brown paper bags, chicks thighs and rolling blunts my man.
Mommas, hide your girl babies. Booyeah, college HERE I CUM!
+ b*ner fights?
RamShit DipShit wrote:
Your kid is going to be studying the inside of brown paper bags, chicks thighs and rolling blunts my man.
Mommas, hide your girl babies. Booyeah, college HERE I CUM!
+ b*ner fights?
i have a math'ish degree and am janitor :(
school aint that cool
Hinckley's Friend wrote:
If he is attending a college/university with a wide range of departments, he can enroll in a wide range of courses first semester and see what he enjoys more/most.
This is the right answer. I don't care how smart he is, higher level math and philosophy are completely different than anything he has taken thus far. Until he starts to actually take some college classes in these areas will he know what e should do.
I would highly recommend reading some posts on Greg Mankiw's blog. He is the head of Harvard's Econ department who blogs about economics, but also talks about life decisions facing young people. He describes his own experience at Princeton -- he went in thinking he was a math whiz, and quickly learned what a real math whiz is. Safe to say he is likely 99th percentile in math ability, but there is a whole other level beyond that. He considered law school and eventually received a PhD in econ. Obviously worked out well for him. The point is that until your son starts taking college classes, everything is subject to change, so you shouldn't worry about it now.
alabama runner wrote:
Po-po wrote:There is not much to think about here. A math major is a fantastic choice. Tell him to go for it!
+1
Math and Physics majors are valued heavily now in all kinds of jobs, especially finance and tech. Even in silicon valley, a Physics or Math major is valued equally or more than a CS major because it provides a different outlook on innovation.
Your years in high school have given you a broad perspective.
It's very likely that he will be closely studying the interior of his dorm mate's rectum.
Northeast Dad wrote:
My son is a high school senior and currently has a 4.1 GPA. However, he does not yet know what he wants to study. He's considering a math major and philosophy minor with the thought that he would be prepared for most any future career or graduate school. Would like to hear other opinions.
He's a bum and will be sucking off you until the Kingdome Come .
As others have said, you generally have to take required general courses the first two years anyway, so there's no need to decide now. After a couple of years yes, but not now. It would be much better actually for him to see where his interests lie and also see if the school is even right for his interests.
foreign idea wrote:
Let him take a year off to work, travel, and explore what he likes. It is a fact that students who have taken time off and return to university are more likely to succeed. They are more mature and more focused which leads to better work habits. I have heard that in Germany you are not allowed to go straight from high school to university. You must take a year off to work (must have a sponsor that guarantees employment), get a one year travel visa, or join the military.
Seems good to me.
Sure, this. I met an almost retired engineer who was biking the West Coast. After two years of university, he enlisted in the Air Force. He met his wife while in Japan and he went back and finished his degree. Your son could do something like the Air Force or Coast Guard and pay for his own college. Or he could go to Mexico and learn Spanish or to France and learn French for much less than it costs to take language classes at an American university. It would be an experience. Or he could take a year and learn how to climb with NOLS. There are a lot of things out there that can shape a person probably better than university.
...and then you took him back to your tent at the vagrant compound, shared a kit-kat and he pegged you, right?
Boom Goes Dat wrote:
...and then you took him back to your tent at the vagrant compound, shared a kit-kat and he pegged you, right?
happyretirement wrote:Sure, this. I met an almost retired engineer who was biking the West Coast. After two years of university, he enlisted in the Air Force. He met his wife while in Japan and he went back and finished his degree. Your son could do something like the Air Force or Coast Guard and pay for his own college. Or he could go to Mexico and learn Spanish or to France and learn French for much less than it costs to take language classes at an American university. It would be an experience. Or he could take a year and learn how to climb with NOLS. There are a lot of things out there that can shape a person probably better than university.
No. It was just a brief conversation on a ferry and then he went on his bicycle trip from Washington to Mexico.
OK, Steve Jobs once gave a great college graduation speech. Go find it and listen to it. I think it can help you understand that your talented son will find his way.
Northeast Dad wrote:
My son is a high school senior and currently has a 4.1 GPA. However, he does not yet know what he wants to study. He's considering a math major and philosophy minor with the thought that he would be prepared for most any future career or graduate school. Would like to hear other opinions.
I don't quite understand why you refer to your "college son" in the caption and then describe him as a high school senior in the text. I'm guessing that he's just starting his senior year in high school.
When I was a high school senior, my top choice for a college major would probably have been mathematics. I don't believe that I had any particular thoughts about studying philosophy. But in the first semester of my freshman year of college, I took an introductory philosophy course taught by a wonderful logician, and I loved it. I eventually chose to pursue an undergraduate degree in philosophy, and I think that it was one of the best decisions that I've ever made.
If your son is genuinely interested in studying philosophy and mathematics, then he's probably a very bright kid who can do well in life regardless of his major, as long as he's studying something that he's passionate about. And that leads me to an important point: One way to screw up a really bright kid is to push him toward a field that he isn't passionate about.
You must have a lot of children ( that are now adults ) and boat loads of $$$$$ for such sage advice .
Students should consider a list of fields that they may be interested in studying and then make sure that they have a solid background in the most technical/rigorous of those fields. This maximizes your realm possibilities in the future, as you can generally shift "down" in technicality of subjects fairly easy, but not "up."
For example, you can easily go to grad school in economics, having studied anything STEM-related as an undergraduate, but not vice versa. Or you can easily switch to CS after studying math, but (again) not vice versa.
Since math is basically at the top of this pecking order of rigor, your son's plan of starting as a math major is sound.
That said, having a basic understanding of computation and programming is highly valuable. No matter what he majors in, he should take an intro to CS course.
Most college degrees are pretty worthless. The good ones are medical school, anything in STEM, accounting (followed up with a CPA certification), etc. Just go on BLS (Bureau of Labor Statistics) and make sure that they are going to be jobs available and that the pay is good then just have him figure out what majors meet his skill set. If he's good at math he could do accounting or engineering.
You should tell your son to figure out what problems in the world most interest him and study in college to become one of the best people to answer those problems. Math is a great field to underpin his preparedness for many of the fields that will still have jobs for human beings during his lifetime.
If you look at what has happened to the practice of law, artificial intelligence has already gutted it as a lucrative profession for many. Elite lawyers whose expertise is their judgment still make a lot of money but the middle of the profession has disappeared. This will happen to other white color jobs soon. Among the highest earners in medicine are radiologists but the literature is now showing that computers read imaging more accurately than humans. So you know what will happen next....
Your subject says college son and then you say your son is in high school.
So you don't have a college son.
So a high schooler doesn't need opinions from a message board about what to declare as a major in a year or two.
He says he's considering math and philosophy so he does have an idea of what he wants to study.
All we can do is name every other major there is or say what we did.
That's no help at all.
Let him pick what he wants and when he knows.
Dave Ramsey wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UzdN1Hyc5w
That link was one of the greatest things I've ever seen on youtube.
"$175,000 dollars for Water Polo?....
"No moron on this planet.... If you have two brain cells to rub together and you work in a bank, you wouldn't make this loan. $175,000 loaned to an 18 year old - unsecured debt - that's going to be a high school teacher and make $38,000 a year. No one would make this loan in their right mind but you and I as taxpayers did because we deem education to be so important that it trumps stupidity. Bless her heart. I feel so bad for her."
rojo wrote:
"$175,000 dollars for Water Polo?"
Her response was what got me:
"Division one, yes sir."
Two separate points here.
One is about how directive a parent should be in making educational/career choices for their special little weakling children.
The other is about whether tuition at special snowflake universities has become absurd, beyond the pale.
These two ideas don't have to be connected at all, unless the sad sack family allows them to be.
News flash: unless you go to one of the top 10 or 15 "name" schools in the country, it matters very little where your diploma is from. After your first job, nobody will care about anything except your work product and ability to produce on the job.
Based on the logic I see around this place, if LRC is comprised of elites, this country is phukked.