Info wrote:
Does run imply two legs? If an animal is using 4 legs, is that running?
Four legs good, two legs bad.
Info wrote:
Does run imply two legs? If an animal is using 4 legs, is that running?
Fitzpatz Sensol wrote:
The fastest 50K at the Olympics was won by three doped up Russians in Sochi, the winner went just under 1:47 for 50K, which is pretty much equal in performance level to the dog teams mentioned.
Neither Northug, Hellner nor the doped up Russians can keep this kind speed on the flats for any duration that would match the dogs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chN7WdlZ3JY
I know more about skiing and mushing than you. Face it.
Suddenly curious if there are any cases of doping or other PEDs in sled dogs.
If those dogs are tied together would their sub fours even be official?
It doesn't make them faster obviously but it may be one of those funny DQs.
And you need a certified measurement on a legit track.
Kyle is the first official legit sub four of any animal in Alaska.
A bit more for comparative purposes.
2015 NA skijoring championship (1 dog attached to 1 skier), in Wayzata MN. - the leaders covered 6.6K in 10:32, 1:36/km. These days sprint skiers will do about 11-12 minutes for a 5K relay leg but I've never heard of anyone going under 10. The 1.4K sprint races in the 2015 World Championships in Falun Sweden did it 2:59 (winner of the prelim, which is an all out time trialed sprint, but Oly Gold Medalist Kriukov of Russia, in 2:59.9 and Peter Northug won the final in 3:02.4. So about 2:07/km.
Just saying the dogs go faster for 6.6K than the skiers go for 1.4.
Sorry I was a little harsh there, Bad. You're smart guy. But there is good empirical evidence that dogs are faster than skiers.
These dogs love to run...this video is crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOGRBK3yXA8
Fitzpatz Sensol wrote:
A bit more for comparative purposes.
2015 NA skijoring championship (1 dog attached to 1 skier), in Wayzata MN. - the leaders covered 6.6K in 10:32, 1:36/km. These days sprint skiers will do about 11-12 minutes for a 5K relay leg but I've never heard of anyone going under 10. The 1.4K sprint races in the 2015 World Championships in Falun Sweden did it 2:59 (winner of the prelim, which is an all out time trialed sprint, but Oly Gold Medalist Kriukov of Russia, in 2:59.9 and Peter Northug won the final in 3:02.4. So about 2:07/km.
Just saying the dogs go faster for 6.6K than the skiers go for 1.4.
Sorry I was a little harsh there, Bad. You're smart guy. But there is good empirical evidence that dogs are faster than skiers.
Star wrote:
If those dogs are tied together would their sub fours even be official?
It doesn't make them faster obviously but it may be one of those funny DQs.
And you need a certified measurement on a legit track.
Kyle is the first official legit sub four of any animal in Alaska.
That was more amazing than I would have imagined. What a finish!
mjohnson5 wrote:
These dogs love to run...this video is crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOGRBK3yXA8
sebcoe7 wrote:
[quote]Star wrote:
(Quote)To be clear, Jack Bolas is the first (and fastest) "official legit" sub four in Alaska. (Quote)
http://bringbackthemile.com/news/detail/bolas_posts_first_sub_4_minute_mile_in_alaska_history
Bring Back the Mile wrote:
Rowbeast wrote:
Now that Alaska is checked off the list. Any other states yet to have the 4 minute barrier broken?
NOTE: Jumpin' Jack Bolas clocked the first sub-4 in Alaska (indoors), four years ago to the day of Merber's outdoor AK sub-4; see: http://www.bringbackthemile.com/news/detail/state_mile_guide_49_alaska
As I understand it, the downhill half of the Mt Marathon race involves a snow bank, which runners are free to slide down. Has anyone ever broken 4-minute mile in that race? It wouldn't be running a sub-4, but it should count for something to break 4 in a foot race. Anyone want to look for Strava data?
Fooey wrote:
sebcoe7 wrote:
[quote]Star wrote:
(Quote)To be clear, Jack Bolas is the first (and fastest) "official legit" sub four in Alaska. (Quote)
http://bringbackthemile.com/news/detail/bolas_posts_first_sub_4_minute_mile_in_alaska_history
Hey, Bolas is the legit first guy indoors. Merber is the first guy outdoors. Bolas ran in perfect conditions. Merber ran in a virtual windstorm. If you're going to grade in terms of " legit", Merber's is much more legit. In that wind, it was at least a 3:55 effort.
Ben Blankenship was the only runner to go Sub-Four at the Kodiak Miracle Mile today. His 3:57.85 establishes a new outdoor and absolute record for the mile in the state of Alaska.
Article and results from the Kodiak mile. If you get blocked, it opens in an InPrivate/Incognito window:
https://www.adn.com/sports/running/2017/09/16/blankenships-357-85-is-fastest-mile-recorded-in-alaska/
Star wrote:
If those dogs are tied together would their sub fours even be official?
It doesn't make them faster obviously but it may be one of those funny DQs.
And you need a certified measurement on a legit track.
Kyle is the first official legit sub four of any animal in Alaska.
Mt Marathon downhill pace? wrote:
As I understand it, the downhill half of the Mt Marathon race involves a snow bank, which runners are free to slide down. Has anyone ever broken 4-minute mile in that race? It wouldn't be running a sub-4, but it should count for something to break 4 in a foot race. Anyone want to look for Strava data?
Just found this thread... so perhaps they should add an outdoor 1-mile race to the winter olympic events just to see who can run the fastest mile through snow in < 20 degrees temp. The Kenyans and Kiprop will suck at this event. My money is on Kyle Merber!!
Didn't Merber and another guy battle a Heps XC race in the cold and sleet that put both of them in the hospital ?