Kyle Merber becomes 1st human to run sub-4 mile outdoors in Alaska

Rowbeast wrote:

Now that Alaska is checked off the list. Any other states yet to have the 4 minute barrier broken?

NOTE: Jumpin' Jack Bolas clocked the first sub-4 in Alaska (indoors), four years ago to the day of Merber's outdoor AK sub-4; see:

Sub4inSingapore wrote:

Ahh thus begins the yearly cycle of obscure races run by b-tier elites trying to stay relevant while we all wait for the pro events to circle back around.

Rowbeast wrote:

Now that Alaska is checked off the list. Any other states yet to have the 4 minute barrier broken?

Colorado

scorpion_runner wrote:

This is the main problem in America, focusing on meaningless accomplishments, and over committing to it, but can't compete worth s h i t on the world stage.

Are you stupid?

What country won Olympic gold in the M1500?

W 1500 Bronze?

M5000 Silver?

2 Steeplechase medals?

Marathon medal.

idiot

Are we sure Kyle Merber is human?

lesson 101 wrote:

scorpion_runner wrote:

This is the main problem in America, focusing on meaningless accomplishments, and over committing to it, but can't compete worth s h i t on the world stage.

Are you stupid?

What country won Olympic gold in the M1500?

W 1500 Bronze?

M5000 Silver?

2 Steeplechase medals?

Marathon medal.

idiot

ha

1. In a slow tactical race, and has won nothing since then. very mediocre as of late

2. ha..another luck up and win bronze

3 KENYAN

4. rupp's bronze? please.

and for the record I was talking about the weak arse runners in the race.

Jesus. Can't a group of guys run a September race for fun and for a little bit of money in a cool place without being raked over the coals for it?

scorpion_runner wrote:

lesson 101 wrote:

Are you stupid?

What country won Olympic gold in the M1500?

W 1500 Bronze?

M5000 Silver?

2 Steeplechase medals?

Marathon medal.

idiot

ha

1. In a slow tactical race, and has won nothing since then. very mediocre as of late

2. ha..another luck up and win bronze

3 KENYAN

4. rupp's bronze? please.

and for the record I was talking about the weak arse runners in the race.

Not when they perform like s h i t in national and international races. Kenyans and Ethiopians don't run just for fun. None of that beer mile, blue jean mile crap.

It creates a laxed mentality and laxed ability.

Hell, even the africans that come over to become americans don't do that crap. Legat, Meb, Chelimo, etc.

At the end of the day, it is none of my business. However, the perception is set. You're goofing off in meaningless arse races, but look like fun runners in championship races, and can't keep up.

Somewhere smart running is not being applied. That is all that I am saying.

Everything is burgers and fries in this country, and that is the problem.

Well the guy who won is a huge choker when it comes to championship races... couldn't even make the finals of USA nationals this year.

lesson 101 wrote:

scorpion_runner wrote:

This is the main problem in America, focusing on meaningless accomplishments, and over committing to it, but can't compete worth s h i t on the world stage.

Are you stupid?

Yes, he actually is. Don't confuse him further.

You're right, unless a runner is an Olympic gold medalist they should just sit on their couch and talk $hit on the internet.

You guys are feeding a troll who doesn't even know enough about running to troll well.

French Dawg wrote:

Sub4inSingapore wrote:

Ahh thus begins the yearly cycle of obscure races run by b-tier elites trying to stay relevant while we all wait for the pro events to circle back around.

What a sad life you must live

Obviously, his daddy never went to his track meets.

In the snow. Bare-paw!

Fitzpatz Sensol wrote:

Sled dogs run 26 miles in 90 minutes at the North American Sprint championships every spring. That's 3:25 to 3:30 pace.

Star wrote:

Is there any reason to think that any animal ever ran sub 4 in Alaska before this?

I are the dogs going sub 4 in the Iditarot?

efdfgdgfd wrote:

Well the guy who won is a huge choker when it comes to championship races... couldn't even make the finals of USA nationals this year.

Point taken

After being ranked top ten US on T&FN lists the last 3 years this might knock him off this years list in spite of having a 3:52.8 Indoor (second absolute US performer for the year, 6th AllTime USA performer) and a 3:36.7 1500 (9th on 2017 US list).

I'd bet over 99% of the guys who ran in college would be happy to have his pro career, his PRs & the number of sub 4 races he's had. He has raced in at least a dozen countries, all around the USA and run on WR/National record relays. A force on the world stage? No BUT more than solid National level career. I'm pretty sure we'll see him around for a few more years.

allathletic says

1 x IAAF World Relays winner

1 x NACAC U23 champion

1 x In Top 8 at Pan American Games

1 x Current World Record holder - Distance Medley

1 x Current NACAC Record holder - Distance Medley

1 x World Records in career

under a bridge wrote:

You guys are feeding a troll who doesn't even know enough about running to troll well.

No trolling at all. The guys in that race are not big time performers when It comes to national and international races. That's all that I'm saying. And they have a history of not performing well when IT COUNTS, so the 1st sub mile outdoors in alaska is nothing to spotlight. And that is the problem here. There is so much spotlight giving on stuff like this, as well as other corny races, that when it comes to something serious, there is nothing of substance from those runners.

While kenyans and ethiopians are somewhere at altitude putting in quality work to be the best in the world.

peace.

and this is the problem ...world relay records and winners, and distance medley at that? Pan American games?

Dude, come on, man.

I'm not trying to be the debbie downer here. That is not true world competition. Top elite world runners are not performing in those events. Sub elite and b level runners compete in those events.

Hell, I give more credit to the american women, who go hard all around the world, and don't fock around.

scorpion_runner wrote:

under a bridge wrote:

You guys are feeding a troll who doesn't even know enough about running to troll well.

No trolling at all. The guys in that race are not big time performers when It comes to national and international races. That's all that I'm saying. And they have a history of not performing well when IT COUNTS, so the 1st sub mile outdoors in alaska is nothing to spotlight. And that is the problem here. There is so much spotlight giving on stuff like this, as well as other corny races, that when it comes to something serious, there is nothing of substance from those runners.

While kenyans and ethiopians are somewhere at altitude putting in quality work to be the best in the world.

peace.

And who are you? What have you done with your running?

Heath has won USATF XC and he took down Mo and the Brits in that rainy mudfest in Edinburgh last year. Blankenship made the Olympic team and the final in his event. The other guys are good, and they are promoting the sport. And what are you doing? And again what have you done?

Took down Mo? See, you proving my point. Trying to put value and worth into something that has no worth . Mo uses that XC race as a workout to get into form and shape, since it happens at the beginning of the year. He usually wins that race while not even being close to form.

But what does Heath do on the track, indoors and outdoors? He gets blasted out of the field, usually coming in 5th or something. I like the guy, just not really a good runner in my book.

Look, dude. I'm not here to be a villain. I'm just here giving my opinion on some of the issues with American running, especially when it comes to the men. There is just too much horsing around.

That's it, dude. No hard feelings.