In Montana, Bozeman has won State AA (the largest schools) Boys for 12 straight years now (this year went to the 6th runner as a tiebreaker). Bozeman girls won 11 straight to 2017, 2nd in 2018, and won again in 2019. They've changed coaches during that streak, and just keep winning.
I know they have huge numbers of runners out for XC; don't know much about their coaching style.
Bozeman actually won NXN 3 years ago by 40 points after never being ranked first, leaving American Fork with a third 2nd place NXN finish and 0 NXN championships.
I have to deal with American Fork and Corner Canyon. The varsity standard for my team (by varsity standard I mean how fast you need to be to have a chance at making varsity) is about 17:50, we are a decent team, second in a strong region. Corner Canyons standard is about 15:50 and AF sits at 16:30ish at an arguably weak year.
Every state has 1 or 2.
rhodeislandrunner wrote:
Rhode Island has been dominated by 2 schools. Lasalle academy and bishop hendricken. the state championships the last 10 years have gone: 2017 BH, 2016 LSA, 2015 LSA, 2014 LSA, 2013 BH, 2012 BH, 2011 BH, 2010 BH, 2009 BH, 2008 BH. both teams look to be very good this year with hendricken being one of the top ranked in the northeast and lsa right there with them
Darn recruiting, private schools!
Wayzata has been the best team in the state historically but the whole lake conference is a class above everyone else. If more than 2 teams could qualify from ever section then 3 of the top 5 would be lake conference teams every year.
Starting in Fall 2021, there will be 3 classes instead of 2 in MN. The largest schools will be in AAA. Gonna be interesting to see how the top current 6AA teams (top Lake teams) will be aligned (whether any of those teams move to different sections than others).
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Bozeman dominates but Hellgate gives them a run for it every couple years. I still want to kill myself every time someone mentions state this year
Coach used to be Clint May who started the winning streak and is now at UM and its now Casey Jermyn who took them to NXN. Still wanna kill myself
Deadstream wrote:
nys of mind wrote:
Hmm...f-m girls do okay.
He said "state", though...not entire country. lol
Most dominant team in the country implies most dominant team in the state.
Corner Canyon and American Fork.
I almost feel bad for Corner Canyons level of success lately. I have a friend on that team that runs high 15s and didn't even end the season varsity. That's state champion type speed in some crappy corners of the US.
The above average wrote:
Corner Canyon and American Fork.
I almost feel bad for Corner Canyons level of success lately. I have a friend on that team that runs high 15s and didn't even end the season varsity. That's state champion type speed in some crappy corners of the US.
Corner Canyon was only opened in 2013. And they were able to turn into an elite team in just a few years.
They also bring back 4 sub 16 5k guys next year even though they lose 5 varsity guys.
Davis also qualified for NXN several times. And in 2018 some of the guys from that school went to the new school Farmington. In just the second year, Farmington finished 5th at NXR, beating Davis by one spot.
new schools on the block wrote:
The above average wrote:
Corner Canyon and American Fork.
I almost feel bad for Corner Canyons level of success lately. I have a friend on that team that runs high 15s and didn't even end the season varsity. That's state champion type speed in some crappy corners of the US.
Corner Canyon was only opened in 2013. And they were able to turn into an elite team in just a few years.
They also bring back 4 sub 16 5k guys next year even though they lose 5 varsity guys.
Davis also qualified for NXN several times. And in 2018 some of the guys from that school went to the new school Farmington. In just the second year, Farmington finished 5th at NXR, beating Davis by one spot.
It's crazy how much of an impact a passionate coach that is willing to do the proper research can make on a team. The athletes all receive specific training under the watchful eye of the coach based on strengths and weaknesses. The average coach usually knows how to train distance athletes, but usually has a one size fits all throw em in the meat grinder and see what comes out training scheme. This will always produce a sub 16 athlete or two, but ends up mistraining the rest. That is what I think contributes the most to CC's deep roster. HUGE props to coach Moody for sure.
Corner Canyon had 2 transfers join their top 7. The team did so well not just because those transfers came in and put up good points, but also because those transfers made others on the team better than they would have been without them, because that increased the competition for the varsity spots.
I also think that the new schools that were built in Utah and whose teams got strong real quick have tremendously increased the competition in the state of Utah and is pushing other Utah teams to do better. They also increased competition in the Southwest region, making the region stronger by also pushing other teams in the region to be better, and so they made Southwest a region that deserves to send an at-large team to NXN every year.
Dana Hills boys went to NXN more than any other CA boys team did.
Great Oak has been dominating in CA Division 1 the last few years and will likely continue to do so.
Newbury Park started dominating CA Division 2 and will likely continue to do so, at least while class of 2023 is still in HS.
Went to school in New York, so the girls were dominated by FM every single season I was in hs. The boys basically split all the class A state titles and nxn spots between FM, Liverpool, and Corning.
The above average wrote:
It's crazy how much of an impact a passionate coach that is willing to do the proper research can make on a team. The athletes all receive specific training under the watchful eye of the coach based on strengths and weaknesses. The average coach usually knows how to train distance athletes, but usually has a one size fits all throw em in the meat grinder and see what comes out training scheme. This will always produce a sub 16 athlete or two, but ends up mistraining the rest. That is what I think contributes the most to CC's deep roster. HUGE props to coach Moody for sure.
Can you give specific examples of the differentiated training being offered here. Some of us would be happy to learn.