No talk of him using drugs? White priviledge for you.
No talk of him using drugs? White priviledge for you.
...and he won by 4 seconds... is he in sub 13:30 shape? Is this is last race of the year?
I would love to see his brothers pace him to a sub 13:25 or a sub 7:50 at 3000m
super impressive.However, I wonder how his next couple years are going to go. My personal guess is that he won't pb for a while after this year.
So what? That Ethiopian 16 year old ran 12:55 earlier in the year.
Bob Washington wrote:
Lebensraum wrote:WOW maybe some US HS, College and Pros can learn something from this kid - that you can race more than 2 times and season and keep on improving and that you don't need weeks off between races.
Man most Americans are such babies when it comes to racing
Not babies, it's just simply that training blocks improve fitness. Now that it is dumbed down does it make more sense?
So does racing.
Bob Washington wrote:
Lebensraum wrote:WOW maybe some US HS, College and Pros can learn something from this kid - that you can race more than 2 times and season and keep on improving and that you don't need weeks off between races.
Man most Americans are such babies when it comes to racing
Not babies, it's just simply that training blocks improve fitness. Now that it is dumbed down does it make more sense?
However it usually just leads to retirement.
Speaker of Hard Truths wrote:
Since Jakob is always compared to US high schoolers - our high school record is 13:37.
koko mcgee wrote:
So what? That Ethiopian 16 year old ran 12:55 earlier in the year.
He was 17 and will be 18 this year I believe
Gotta bee wrote:
koko mcgee wrote:So what? That Ethiopian 16 year old ran 12:55 earlier in the year.
He was 17 and will be 18 this year I believe
Oh. Well still, Jakob will never run 12:55 next year when he's 17 (or ever in fact).
koko mcgee wrote:
Gotta bee wrote:He was 17 and will be 18 this year I believe
Oh. Well still, Jakob will never run 12:55 next year when he's 17 (or ever in fact).
What a bold prediction. How many white guys have run 12:55.0 or faster? One?
Yes, pretty likely that will not run that next year (or ever). Pretty easy to be right here.
Lebensraum wrote:
WOW maybe some US HS, College and Pros can learn something from this kid - that you can race more than 2 times and season and keep on improving and that you don't need weeks off between races.
Man most Americans are such babies when it comes to racing
can i interest you in a thread bashing clayton murphy for racing this season after his USAs performance/injury?
okeydokie wrote:
peaking tom wrote:He's not at peak fitness. That won't happen for another 10 years or so.
Or he'll get his period and put on weight.
I was going to disagree with Peaking Tom, he will peak about 19/20 or even earlier. But your response is way, way better, just classic.😂😂😂😉
Kiddiidyyd wrote:
koko mcgee wrote:Oh. Well still, Jakob will never run 12:55 next year when he's 17 (or ever in fact).
What a bold prediction. How many white guys have run 12:55.0 or faster? One?
Yes, pretty likely that will not run that next year (or ever). Pretty easy to be right here.
We'll see how he continues to improve the next few years
If he ditches that speed suit I can see him breaking 13 though
l.r.c. age conspiracy theorist wrote:
yyy wrote:Outstanding. He is only a few days shy of being 17 though.
Age cheat. Most American 16-year-olds are in the beginning or middle of their age range. Apples and oranges. If he were in the American HS system, he would be as old as many juniors and even some seniors, so you can't compare his accomplishments at the age of 16 to other 16-year olds. Plus I heard that "Grandpa" Jakob was actually 8 and winning primary school races in Kenya when he was "born" in Norway, so he's at least 24 now and past his prime. He's actually the oldest brother, but there's lax birth certificate enforcement in Scandinavia.
Obviously you can't take anything away from this kid, he's super talented. But you can't compare him to U.S. high school athlete who are trained to race every week doubling and tripling in meets against other H.S. kids. A typical H.S. kid's season will start in April and peak in early June. You will have a half dozen dual meets, a few invitationals, county/district/sectionals/states/nationals and perhaps one of 2 opportunities against older athletes. For comparison, you have to go with African teenagers who drop out of school and train with a pro group or someone like Mary Cain, who had a private coach and was competing against world class athletes and primed to peak late in the summer. For example, Fernandez who was only a few months past his 17th birthday when he did his amazing double at CIF, imagine what he would have run had he skipped his senior year and traveled the world competing against world class athletes.
Like I said, you can't take anything away from Jakob, but Mary Cain is the only 16 year old H.S. kid I can compare him to.
Training, not racing, makes you faster.
He is racing far less than the typical US 16y/o HS Junior
Training, not racing, makes you faster.
He is racing far less than the typical US 16y/o HS Junior
koko mcgee wrote:
So what? That Ethiopian 16 year old ran 12:55 earlier in the year.
Exactly, Kejelcha 13:25 @ 16. Whether he actually is that age is another question. He looks 25 to me.
Racing does make you faster, which is why all the best get sharpening races before their goal races. However, training is obviously key to being in the best shape. And we see time and again that you run your fastest time in races with the right circumstances, which include good weather, good pacers, and often for younger runners, that means people to draft off of the entire race. Ingebrigtsen ran that 13:49 with a 54 or 55 close, I believe, which predicted better than 13:30, and here he had run a 1:49 800m the previous day and won this race. If you get him in a 13:20s race, he can stick.
Kiddiidyyd wrote:
What a bold prediction. How many white guys have run 12:55.0 or faster? One?
Yes, pretty likely that will not run that next year (or ever). Pretty easy to be right here.
Rupp ran 12:58 in 2012, but his 26:44 in 2016 is equivalent to a 12:45. He just never got a chance to jump in a fast 5000.
Hmmm.
Age.
Haven't we learned our lesson with Lukas V and Cheserek regarding claimed v actual age.
Not buying this.
Sad.