With that stat how do people feel about how many people bought a pay per fight that everyone pretty much knew would win.
89 or 99 dollars for less than an hour of entertainment
With that stat how do people feel about how many people bought a pay per fight that everyone pretty much knew would win.
89 or 99 dollars for less than an hour of entertainment
HRE wrote:
I know some wrote:What an absolutely asinine reply. You obviously can't debate the issue, so resort to silliness.
I obviously can't debate the issue if I don't get an answer. I'll take this as a "yes" then.
I don't even know why I bother. You are obviously a brainwashed Bernie Sanders supporter who has no logic to back up the nonsensical, emotion-based drivel that you regurgitate.
You've offered not a single, coherent counter argument as to why you find it so offensive that there might be some general financial principles to abide by to increase the chances of not living paycheck to paycheck. Does it scare you that more government might not be the answer to every problem?
But yes, I do think I am better than they are at NOT living paycheck to paycheck because, well, they live paycheck to paycheck, and I don't. That doesn't imply I think I am superior to them in any other way.
celery wrote:
financer wrote:And that government takes all that limited tax money and uses it on totally worthless crap like overseas military expenditures.
Most of those countries with higher taxes have WAY higher quality of life and WAY more "happiness".
We have abysmal health care, little higher education opportunities, stagnant social reform, etc.
Our country sucks. A lot. I'd live in one of those countries with higher taxes in a flash if I could get the work visas.
So the democratic socialist utopian countries won't let you in? Do they hate immigrants or something? Sounds pretty bigoted to me. You're probably better off sticking with the USA. Although, with your ungrateful attitude, and delusional inability to recognize the good things about the USA, I do wish you would leave.
You obviously know nothing about immigration and visa situations, which is fine. You're ignorant, and little more.
Good things in America? Like, rampant racism? Third-world level violence? Rampant homelessness and poverty? Unaffordable healthcare? Obtuse, belligerent leaders?
Yeah, right.
But yes, I do want to leave. And I will. Absolutely. No way I'll retire in America.
Wow the stupidity wrote:
Ummm . . . Man wrote:[quote]10% is a lot of money wrote:
Why would you tithe? Buy something nice for yourself instead. Or put it in an index fund for your kids.
None of your damned business what he chooses to do with his money.[/quote
what do we do to con-men who lie and steal from people? We arrest them and put them in jail. What do we to to con-men who lie and steal from people inside a church? We give them 10% of our earnings.
Wake up people, you're being scammed.
You appear to be attempting to address someone who tithes. That would not be me.
Care to try again?
Exactly where did I say I don't think there are some general financial principles to abide by to increase your chances of not living paycheck to paycheck or that I was offended that there are? I agree with you. But the biggest principle that will help you not live paycheck to paycheck is to get a bigger paycheck and for the majority of Americans that isn't happening and hasn't for quite some time..
Every study I have seen that's looked at the issue of why Americans aren't saving more money says nothing about cell phones or cable TV or beer. They all say the reason Americans aren't saving more money is that most of them aren't making much of it and there really isn't much left over to save once the bills are paid. Does that mean that there aren't people who fritter away money that could be saved on unnecessary things? Of course not. But if we think low savings are a problem that should be addressed, and I'm skeptical that we really do, it's time to look at the real source of the problem and not use the problem as a reason to pat ourselves on the back for how frugal we are.
Okay, I feel you have given me something to think about.
While I do feel like strides could be made by educating people in financial matters, and having people practice more self discipline, I also don't want to become smug with self righteousness and disregard the challenges many face.
Hi Flagpole! I now know with certainty that HRE = Flagpole.
HRE wrote:
Every study I have seen that's looked at the issue of why Americans aren't saving more money says nothing about cell phones or cable TV or beer. They all say the reason Americans aren't saving more money is that most of them aren't making much of it and there really isn't much left over to save once the bills are paid. Does that mean that there aren't people who fritter away money that could be saved on unnecessary things? Of course not.
I don't disagree with your premise, but damn if I don't see half of my students who can't afford to buy a pencil or a notebook come in with the latest Jordan's or Lebron's and have the latest xbox games and all that.
There's a helluva lot of dumb@sses who care only about being satisfied now rather than later, and who literally think that they don't have to feed their kids because someone else will and they can use that money on banal, stupid junk.
It's STAGGERING how many permanent record files I open up and proof of residence is an electric bill that is past due. New shoes are more important than damn electricity.
No question there are a helluva lot of dumb asses around. One is even sure I'm Flagpole. I had similar observations about the pencil and notebook thing when I was a high school teacher. I was never convinced that in a lot of cases they just didn't bother getting the notebooks or pencils and then said they couldn't afford it and yes, it would drive me nuts if I was still teaching and I had kids that I knew were getting free lunches walking around with some flash smart phone, assuming I'd actually recognize it as a flash smart phone, which I probably wouldn't.
But this thread isn't about just the dumb asses. The topic is about 75% of the American people and I think it's pretty arrogant to dismiss all or even most of their money problems as a result of their dumb assness when there's a real economic issue in play.
And yes, I am in total agreement with your last paragraph.
Ever notice how these save everything, know it all, frugal guys are still working? They never retire early.
everybody works wrote:
Ever notice how these save everything, know it all, frugal guys are still working? They never retire early.
That's not been my experience at all. I know several "retire early" guys who got there by being big savers. I mean, count every penny savers.